Manchester United v Arsenal Official Match Thread 1/11/20 4:30pm

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Comsistancy is down to the mentality of the players. Mentality theyre shit. Tbf theyre shit anyway bar bruno rashford and greenwood.

Then that reflects on the manager.

It’s his job to get them motivated and invested in what he’s doing.

Early doors, ok, but he’s got his feet under the table now.

We have a terrible problem of starting home games on the back foot. We don’t look ready for the game. That’s entirely on the manager.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Then that reflects on the manager.

It’s his job to get them motivated and invested in what he’s doing.

Early doors, ok, but he’s got his feet under the table now.

We have a terrible problem of starting home games on the back foot. We don’t look ready for the game. That’s entirely on the manager.

No it’s not. It’s his job to identify who needs him to get them motivated and drum them out of the £#%&!ing club.

Originally Posted by AK14

And Ole...





Probably should have been subbed earlier then tbf.

Yeah 100% he should have got hooked immediately after the mistake. Bruno was as bad as him but for him to survive longer was mad

When it comes down to it Arsenal were gifted a penalty to win it. Sky think they are fantastic.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

He won't walk into any top team though. Looking at Pogba's body language he knows it too.

I disagree, like it or not most people in football outside of England rate Pogba really highly.

And most people outside of England think we're a horribly run club with no structure or direction.

That's enough any top team to take a gamble on him in the hopes they can get more out of Pogba than we could.

I will go as far to say Pogba will win the league at his next club before we do.

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Comsistancy is down to the mentality of the players. Mentality theyre shit. Tbf theyre shit anyway bar bruno rashford and greenwood.

funny you mention mentality because you hear keane talk about that regarding this group....there is no leader no big voice on the pitch pushing them to be better when they are playing poorly

that is the problem when you have a young team, consistency, and a captain who isn't vocal or grabs a guy when he's playing like shit and tells him so

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

It's only tonics and dunk who think he should be starting before beeky to be fair.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by utd99

No it’s not. It’s his job to identify who needs him to get them motivated and drum them out of the £#%&!ing club.

It’s still part of a managers job to get them going.

Regardless, the wider point is that the players out there are his. How they play, their attitude etc is on him.

His circus, his monkeys.

The argument of “it’s the players who go out there” has never washed with me.

Originally Posted by Neo

Originally Posted by Tronics

I disagree, like it or not most people in football outside of England rate Pogba really highly.

And most people outside of England think we're a horribly run club with no structure or direction.

That's enough any top team to take a gamble on him in the hopes they can get more out of Pogba than we could.

I will go as far to say Pogba will win the league at his next club before we do.

They don't though. Hence why no club will go near £50m nevermind what we paid for him. Madrid might and he will do well there strutting around for 80% of games played at leisure. Top players can perform over here.

Originally Posted by RedNick80

So that’s it, they are all soft? The Manager has to ensure the mentality is right. Sadly Ole is too nice and you have to be a @#%&! to be a top class manager.

Starting to think there is some truth in this tbph.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

They don't though. Hence why no club will go near £50m nevermind what we paid for him. Madrid might and he will do well there strutting around for 80% of games played at leisure. Top players can perform over here.

We'll have to wait and see i guess.

Originally Posted by MUFC One Love

They don't though. Hence why no club will go near £50m nevermind what we paid for him. Madrid might and he will do well there strutting around for 80% of games played at leisure. Top players can perform over here.

It's not like he came over here at 25 either and it took him by surprise. Spent his formative years here. Would do well in a good team but shit when you're struggling.

Originally Posted by bosskeano

funny you mention mentality because you hear keane talk about that regarding this group....there is no leader no big voice on the pitch pushing them to be better when they are playing poorly

that is the problem when you have a young team, consistency, and a captain who isn't vocal or grabs a guy when he's playing like shit and tells him so

I also think it’s ability. A lot of our players are one dimensional: AWB shaw Fred The Scottish Player matic pogba

AWB, great tackler shit in the air and leaves his man exposed when cross comes in from the left. He’s also dog shit in attack.

Shaw, shit defender and shit going forward. 1 in every 4 things he does is good.

The Scottish Player. Old fashioned holding, can tackle but that’s it. If he plays you need 2 others in the team at least to accommodate him. Normally the fullbacks can attack and take the onus of but they can’t all our creativity has to come through the middle and not through him cus he can’t do it

Fred, runs a bit and can make good interceptions but can’t pass either or do anything going forward. Again if he plays you need others to pick up the slack

Pogba, all the talent none of the execution

Matic similar to The Scottish Player ,passes better but lacks pace so he needs another midfielder more often than not to accommodate his shortcomings


Now two out of Fred The Scottish Player and matic have to play cus we hav shite CBs

So you’re already playing with 6 players who offer f*** all going forward. We end up relying on Bruno rashford and Greenwood. Bruno is normally mr consistent so he is alright. Rashford and Greenwood are young players so they will be inconsistent.

We have big holes to fill with a shit recruitment team. Ole got f***ed in the summer again as did , Jose and lvg before him.

We end up with having to play a system which suits the shite players to “make as little mistakes as possible”

Combine a system forced to plug holes rather than dominate and win with poorly self motivated players and you have what we have.

Ole did no favours today with his set up and leaving pogba on but our problems run deeper than him. Can see him getting sacked , the cycle will continue and everybody will be having the same conversation next year

Missed this at the time

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1318829374867529728?s=19

Harry Maguire: "I don't think the concentration was there in the first half, we were a bit complacent because everyone was patting us on the back, which shouldn't happen, win or lose you have to stay level headed."

Originally Posted by Tronics

We'll have to wait and see i guess.

Great

Pathetic. More of the ‘we have to do better’ droning... Then £#%&!ing do better you slab headed @#%&!.

Originally Posted by Tronics

Yeah 100% he should have got hooked immediately after the mistake. Bruno was as bad as him but for him to survive longer was mad

Should have gone before the pen tbf

Writing was on the wall that he was about to do something stupid and was constantly £#%&!ing up our attacking play.

Originally Posted by AK14

Should have gone before the pen tbf

Writing was on the wall that he was about to do something stupid and was constantly £#%&!ing up our attacking play.

Correct. And that’s on our £#%&!ing manager. Did £#%&! all while Brighton were taking the paint off our woodwork either. So frustrating.