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Unread 02-08-2022, 09:50 AM
dunk
 
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because he gave them new contracts
Woodward dished out the contracts. It’s been discussed many, many times and detailed in recent interviews. The strategy being that the players were worth more on the balance sheet on large contracts. The manager never had a say in it.

That and it’s cheaper to keep and pay a player than it is to buy a replacement.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:51 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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City have recouped £230m this year apparently.

They pay players fortunes. Utd are £#%&!ing idiots. It’s not Murtough, it’s systemic over the past decade and how poorly were run.
It’s pretty much down to one man: Woodward.

I maintain that he is the worst thing to ever happen to united. A competent CEO organising a well run club can still operate successfully under the glazer ownership handicap. But this absolute arrogant out of his depth #@&%! has set us back decades.

The list of crimes under his watch are too numerous to name but it will take years to re-emerge from what this @#%&! has done.

Bringing Fergie back in is £#%&!ing mental. Most of this shit happened whilst he still had influence.

Darren Fletcher? Wtaf? £#%&!ing jock favouritism
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 09:53 AM
Jethro
 
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because he gave them new contracts
For a self proclaimed footballing financial genius you don't seem to grasp who was handing out the gross contracts.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:33 AM
believe
 
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What players are we still stuck with from Jose’s time?
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:47 AM
dunk
 
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What players are we still stuck with from Jose’s time?
Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:51 AM
utd99
 
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Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:55 AM
dunk
 
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I thought you liked Dalot. Those three are not the best, but hardly his most egregious crimes. Those are long gone thank god.
Dalot is a place holder at best. He’s not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

I’d argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone he’d actively want the club to pursue.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 10:59 AM
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Bailly, Lindelof, Fred, Dalot
Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:01 AM
Ronny
 
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Dalot is a place holder at best. He’s not actually good at anything, but tries hard.

I’d argue few of them were actual Mourinho signings tbh. None of them fit the mould of someone he’d actively want the club to pursue.
In a year or twos time Erik might want a team that doesn't contain DDG, Maguire Shaw even dare I say Bruno.
Do you think the club has the expertise/nouse even appetite to make that happen?
If not are we really prepared to back ETH or is he here to make what we've got work better?
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:03 AM
dunk
 
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Ah the three players who between them will probably rack up more appearances than any other player under the new manager who we all think is the best manager for the job.
Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They aren’t playing because they’re good, they’re playing because the club’s recruitment is inept.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:06 AM
Hyman_Roth
 
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Can’t believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:06 AM
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Bailly and Lindelof? Are you sure?

Fred by default, Dalot too.

They aren’t playing because they’re good, they’re playing because the club’s recruitment is inept.
Didn’t see Bailly to be fair Ten Hag’s biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesn’t think these are.

It’s just that all the arguments are very contradictory, we’ll be saying whoever’s been signed so far weren’t his signings in a month or two.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 11:08 AM
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They aren’t until replacements arrive. They can’t sell Fred when Beek is his replacement ffs

None of those 4 are or have ever been the required standard, we’re stuck with them occupying first team places and money as we’ve not been able to buy adequate upgrades because we’re shit at transfers.

Lindelof should be 4th choice ffs, but Varane is a crock and Maguire a halfwit.

The players that have arrived are clearly ETH picks, he knows and has worked with 2 of them previous and had targeted Malacia for Ajax.

It’s been well documented that we’ve scrapped those responsible for identifying and suggesting players to be recruited this year and started from scratch.
 
Unread 02-08-2022, 03:22 PM
ErikvanHaaksbergen
 
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Can’t believe people are still going on about ole v Mou.
Ole was a placeholder out of his depth but Mourinho was an actual malevolent spirit. Wouldn’t be surprised if he cast voodoo on the club before he left.
No question who was worse for United.

The squad actually looked OK in some respects after last season business .. midfield has been gutted further now though & we £#%&!ed Up by going for Ronaldo as CF when we had CL football to offer and some momentum after ‘21
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 05:41 PM
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Unread 22-09-2022, 10:43 PM
Denis Irwell
 
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Didn’t see Bailly to be fair Ten Hag’s biggest praise so far has been managing to get rid of the deadwood. He obviously doesn’t think these are.

It’s just that all the arguments are very contradictory, we’ll be saying whoever’s been signed so far weren’t his signings in a month or two.
It’s ok, mate. Woodward gone.
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 10:52 PM
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There are no plans, Murtough. You bullshitting @#%&!.

You spent the last couple of weeks of the transfer window flailing about throwing money out of sheer panic.
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 10:57 PM
dunk
 
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There are no plans, Murtough. You bullshitting @#%&!.

You spent the last couple of weeks of the transfer window flailing about throwing money out of sheer panic.
This. The plan was to spend the square root of £#%&! all, or just enough to be offset by the wages out and fees received. Then the fans started demonstrating and take over talk became far too real and they either shit themselves or decided spending a few more quid on the never, never on players might boost the selling price. Nothing else.
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 10:59 PM
Sparky***
 
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This. The plan was to spend the square root of £#%&! all, or just enough to be offset by the wages out and fees received. Then the fans started demonstrating and take over talk became far too real and they either shit themselves or decided spending a few more quid on the never, never on players might boost the selling price. Nothing else.
Yep, all on credit so all they did was throw another hundred million on the pile of debt.

God i hope there's some truth in these takeover rumours, the sooner they all £#%&! off the better
 
Unread 22-09-2022, 11:04 PM
dunk
 
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Yep, all on credit so all they did was throw another hundred million on the pile of debt.

God i hope there's some truth in these takeover rumours, the sooner they all £#%&! off the better
I honestly thought they were going all in and we were getting another 2 or 3 tbh. They’d have much more joy selling a club up at the top of the table looking ripe for CL than one squabbling about in 5th and 6th. Just couldn’t bring themselves to do it though. Parasites. We could’ve had Gakpo and a RB for the dividends and interest payments. Utter @#%&!s.
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