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Unread 01-09-2019, 07:13 PM
Sparky***
 
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Or that three decades ago, many if not most United fans wanted Ferguson sacked.
I love this £#%&!ing revisionist crap people come out with. As if from 1986 to 1990 everyone was just sat patiently waiting because they knew boundless success was just around the corner.

They were £#%&!ing calling for his head in the late 80s. 4 years into fergie's time as manager we finished 13th ffs.
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 07:37 PM
red in cumbria
 
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I love this £#%&!ing revisionist crap people come out with. As if from 1986 to 1990 everyone was just sat patiently waiting because they knew boundless success was just around the corner.

They were £#%&!ing calling for his head in the late 80s. 4 years into fergie's time as manager we finished 13th ffs.
Actually flirted with the drop that season, though of course we did win the FA Cup as well. And the rest is of course history
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 09:00 PM
MartialLaw
 
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Barring the removal of many shitstains on the squad and the addition of three solid players in Maguire, AWB and James? Big strides have been made under Ole but he needs time. Too many Reds spoilt by the Fergie era and don’t remember the lean years beforehand. Give Ole time and get behind him. He’s one of us, he’s working to do the right thing.
Fergie won a European trophy with Aberdeen beating Real Madrid, he got the United job on merit, he had a track record that said he could get it right.

Ole got Cardiff relegated and has spent most of his time in the Norwegian league.

He should be nowhere near the job, if we're giving it to players based on legendary status let's get Eric or Keano in.

And ole hasn't ditched any £#%&!er, players have been sold or loaned to get the wage bill down due to no CL.
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 09:32 PM
92ToBury
 
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Fergie won a European trophy with Aberdeen beating Real Madrid, he got the United job on merit, he had a track record that said he could get it right.

Ole got Cardiff relegated and has spent most of his time in the Norwegian league.

He should be nowhere near the job, if we're giving it to players based on legendary status let's get Eric or Keano in.

And ole hasn't ditched any £#%&!er, players have been sold or loaned to get the wage bill down due to no CL.
Forgotten about bogbrush already or does that not suit your rhetoric?
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 09:34 PM
Switching Off
 
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Barring the removal of many shitstains on the squad and the addition of three solid players in Maguire, AWB and James? Big strides have been made under Ole but he needs time. Too many Reds spoilt by the Fergie era and don’t remember the lean years beforehand. Give Ole time and get behind him. He’s one of us, he’s working to do the right thing.
Yep.
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 10:10 PM
Whiteside onside
 
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Fergie won a European trophy with Aberdeen beating Real Madrid, he got the United job on merit, he had a track record that said he could get it right.

Ole got Cardiff relegated and has spent most of his time in the Norwegian league.

He should be nowhere near the job, if we're giving it to players based on legendary status let's get Eric or Keano in.

And ole hasn't ditched any £#%&!er, players have been sold or loaned to get the wage bill down due to no CL.
Absolutely.
 
Unread 01-09-2019, 10:47 PM
dunk
 
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Ole won the league twice with a club that had never won it before.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 02:47 AM
utd99
 
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Ole won the league twice with a club that had never won it before.
Don’t bother with facts; factions of our ‘support’ are no better than those £#%&! stains in West London. Anyone making a call on Ole at this stage made it before he arrived. Who cares what they think?
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 09:52 AM
windy waffles
 
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Barring the removal of many shitstains on the squad and the addition of three solid players in Maguire, AWB and James? Big strides have been made under Ole but he needs time. Too many Reds spoilt by the Fergie era and don’t remember the lean years beforehand. Give Ole time and get behind him. He’s one of us, he’s working to do the right thing.
I think he is way out of his depth but, agree, should be given time. The only thing I don't agree with is getting rid of Sanchez and Lukaku with no one being bought in. Now that is either down to Woodward (likely) or Ole being narrow minded in thinking that we will be ok with just 'Rashy', Martial and Greenwood as our only attacking options.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 11:37 AM
Alex Jones was Right
 
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I think he is way out of his depth but, agree, should be given time.
Other than making that assumption because he’s lacking experience in the biggest jobs, what has he actually done since taking over united that suggests he’s demonstrably out of his depth in comparison to experienced managers like van gaal and mourinho?
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 11:50 AM
windy waffles
 
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Other than making that assumption because he’s lacking experience in the biggest jobs, what has he actually done since taking over united that suggests he’s demonstrably out of his depth in comparison to experienced managers like van gaal and mourinho?
His awful substitutions and decision making.

'Rashy'

Its common knowledge this is his dream job and he isn't going to rock the boat in any way shape or form i.e Glazer puppet at the moment.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 11:56 AM
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His awful substitutions and decision making.

'Rashy'

Its common knowledge this is his dream job and he isn't going to rock the boat in any way shape or form i.e Glazer puppet at the moment.
No-one is going to 'rock the boat', and it's useless bringing it up about any manager. No manager is going to come in and start giving the board a deserved slagging off, no matter how good it would make us feel.

Unfortunately it's never going to happen and it shouldn't be a stick that's used to beat any manager over the head with.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 11:59 AM
Sparky***
 
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Other than making that assumption because he’s lacking experience in the biggest jobs, what has he actually done since taking over united that suggests he’s demonstrably out of his depth in comparison to experienced managers like van gaal and mourinho?
winning 3 out of 16 of his last games in charge is a bit alarming, no?
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 11:59 AM
Jethro
 
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Rock the boat ffs. We've had SAF, LVG and Mourinho. Each as meek as the last.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:01 PM
windy waffles
 
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winning 3 out of 16 of his last games in charge is a bit alarming, no?
Forgot about that tbf.

And this...
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:02 PM
dunk
 
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His awful substitutions and decision making.

'Rashy'

Its common knowledge this is his dream job and he isn't going to rock the boat in any way shape or form i.e Glazer puppet at the moment.
%@#$&!s that. He's not exactly dripping in options.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:03 PM
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He's not good enough, but neither is the squad and that's not his fault. Difficult to see where we go from here tbh.

We desperately need new players, but do you entrust a Championship level manager to oversee those changes?
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:07 PM
dunk
 
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He's not good enough, but neither is the squad and that's not his fault. Difficult to see where we go from here tbh.

We desperately need new players, but do you entrust a Championship level manager to oversee those changes?
%@#$&!s again.

And he's signed our 3 best players, currently..
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:09 PM
Big Norm
 
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%@#$&!s again.

And he's signed our 3 best players, currently..
And got rid of 5 players everyone's been calling dogshit for years.
 
Unread 02-09-2019, 12:09 PM
Patty_b
 
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%@#$&!s again.

And he's signed our 3 best players, currently..
This is his saving grace at the moment for me, the three players he has brought in have been the best performers so far, the rest of the squad are the same players that have offered utter shite regardless as to who the manager is.
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