Official: Manchester United v Crystal Palace match thread

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

He's a week younger than Rashford. Perspective free of charge pal

Rashford’s a little bit more experienced at the top level than James mate. He probably thought in the moment that he’s rescued a draw. He’ll learn.

Wow - working hard in your 2nd game at OT and scoring again, a decent goal at that and letting it go to your head in front of 70k fans - Daniel you re a very naughty little boy.

And Martial did what yesterday?
And Pogba?
And Rashford?
And Linguard?
And The Scottish Player?

But that’s it slate the least experienced new boy.

#@&%!s

Originally Posted by The Stella Fella

Wow - working hard in your 2nd game at OT and scoring again, a decent goal at that and letting it go to your head in front of 70k fans - Daniel you re a very naughty little boy.

And Martial did what yesterday?
And Pogba?
And Rashford?
And Linguard?
And The Scottish Player?

But that’s it slate the least experienced new boy.

#@&%!s

It’ll be interesting to see if he gets afforded the same level of excuse making some of the others get tbh.

Maguire for that first goal is pretty awful defending as well. Lindelöf to little surprise is weak and soft going for a header but the lack of anticipation of danger from Maguire has to be alarming. The only threat was the run from Ayew and Slab just observed it happening without reacting, basic defending to drop to cover. This CB partnership looks worryingly reliant on the high press giving them an arm chair ride because they have looked far from secure under the little pressure we have had to endure so far.

Still early days for them to be fair.

Originally Posted by AK14

I don’t really give a £#%&! and if a 21 year old kid was celebrating a goal tbh, not like losing those few seconds made a difference.

If more players had his overall attitude and desire maybe we wouldn’t have lost the game yesterday.

This, it actually shows he has a good mentality for us IMO.

Unlike certain others.......

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Maguire for that first goal is pretty awful defending as well. Lindelöf to little surprise is weak and soft going for a header but the lack of anticipation of danger from Maguire has to be alarming. The only threat was the run from Ayew and Slab just observed it happening without reacting, basic defending to drop to cover. This CB partnership looks worryingly reliant on the high press giving them an arm chair ride because they have looked far from secure under the little pressure we have had to endure so far.

Still early days for them to be fair.

Watching the goal back he puts his arm up as an attempt to signal to Wan Bissaka (who was the closest to the run of Ayew) to cover, or that’s what it looks like?

Hopefully like you say it’s just one of those things because it’s onkt their third game playing together.

Originally Posted by utd99

Rashford’s a little bit more experienced at the top level than James mate. He probably thought in the moment that he’s rescued a draw. He’ll learn.

Or just possibly "we can still go on and win this"?

Of course, our goalie had other ideas

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Maguire for that first goal is pretty awful defending as well. Lindelöf to little surprise is weak and soft going for a header but the lack of anticipation of danger from Maguire has to be alarming. The only threat was the run from Ayew and Slab just observed it happening without reacting, basic defending to drop to cover. This CB partnership looks worryingly reliant on the high press giving them an arm chair ride because they have looked far from secure under the little pressure we have had to endure so far.

Still early days for them to be fair.

Maguire was covering for Shaw who was standing on one leg mate. Admittedly, he was probably a few yards too far left, but you can understand why. Wan-Bissaka is the one who should have been covering for Lindelof under the circumstances; though none of this excuses his weakness in the air. The scary thing is that none of our benched centre backs would have lost that header, it was feeble. Other managers are going to see that and try to capitalize now.

Originally Posted by utd99

Rashford’s a little bit more experienced at the top level than James mate. He probably thought in the moment that he’s rescued a draw. He’ll learn.

Still a bit of perspective. The kid who will learn is the same age as the lad who is running out of excuses and has to bag 15 in the league.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Still a bit of perspective. The kid who will learn is the same age as the lad who is running out of excuses and has to bag 15 in the league.

To Let:

Space inside your head.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

To Let:

Space inside your head.

I can forgive a moments exuberance over a pea roller from 40 yards tbh.

Originally Posted by utd99

Maguire was covering for Shaw who was standing on one leg mate. Admittedly, he was probably a few yards too far left, but you can understand why. Wan-Bissaka is the one who should have been covering for Lindelof under the circumstances; though none of this excuses his weakness in the air. The scary thing is that none of our benched centre backs would have lost that header, it was feeble. Other managers are going to see that and try to capitalize now.

He was but he should immediately reposition when he sees the ball heading towards Lindelöf, no threat on his side. AWB should also be covering, and the midfield are doing their usual nothing defensively.

I have the concern that Maguire looks more commanding than he actually is, his composure on the ball elevating the perception of his actual defending. Lindelöf I just don't rate yet, far from convinced he is better than the reviled Smalling and Jones.

any centre half can lose a header (linde is shit in the air, though). both wan-b and maguire should have been way goal side of him. and there is no excuse... age, newness to the team, etc. it is £#%&!ing basic defending.

lucky for them, they have both played well generally, because that was a shocker.

The initial reaction is to marvel at the manner of the defeat, only the second time in Premier League history that Manchester United have conceded a game-winning goal in stoppage time at Old Trafford. The cliche about this team was that it found a way to snatch late victory from the jaw of dropped points. Not any more.

The second is Paul Pogba losing possession for Patrick van Aanholt’s winner, because everything that Pogba does badly these days is amplified and extrapolated into the noise surrounding his performance level, happiness and future. Forget that the midfield looks weak with him and would look weaker without him, because they allowed one first-team midfielder to leave this summer and did not replace him.

Next comes David de Gea’s role in the defeat. There was a time when De Gea was comfortably the most in-form goalkeeper in world football, but that time has now passed. We were told that improvements in central defence would offer him better protection, and that may well still prove true. But individual errors have crept into De Gea’s game and they are hurting United. The aura has gone.

And, finally, there’s the most worrying conclusion of all. When Manchester United were struggling to break down Palace, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer looked to his bench for game-changers and saw only a 31-year-old who is now apparently no longer first choice and a 17-year-old forward who has been thrust into the role of next striker off the rank.

There are no injury issues in United’s squad. They have sold one striker and are trying to loan out another. They face the prospect of four competitions and regular Thursday-Sunday football with two senior forwards, neither of whom have scored regularly before and both of whom will be prone to muscle injuries if this workload continues.

That is a damning indictment of Manchester United’s mismanagement, their scattergun recruitment and their abject lack of planning for even the most predictable eventualities. The sight of Martial limping his way through the match’s final moments should cause those in charge to wince at their own incompetence.

https://www.football365.com/news/pre...and-losers-117

That is a damning indictment of Manchester United’s mismanagement, their scattergun recruitment and their abject lack of planning for even the most predictable eventualities. The sight of Martial limping his way through the match’s final moments should cause those in charge to wince at their own incompetence.

Been saying it for a while...

Doesn’t matter who the manager is.

what were they saying about de gea's individual errors after the chelsea game?

any manager playing pogba in a defensive two can £#%&! off, though.

Said it before with Dave....he's been getting gradually shitter since they hired this guy (his mate)

https://www.utdforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=274080

Originally Posted by jem

what were they saying about de gea's individual errors after the chelsea game?

any manager playing pogba in a defensive two can £#%&! off, though.

Going back a fair few months now he's been letting shots go under him or through him .

Sane at old trafford last season and chelsea at home last season are just a couple of high profile mistakes i can remember.

he's a goalkeeper who relies primarily on his reflexes and if those are starting to go then you have to ask what else is he good at? He's not great with his distribution, he doesn't command his area or come off his line well to cover the defenders. He's bang average at saving pens and free kicks.

He's been poor for at least 18 months.

Should be dropped until his contract situation is sorted and if he doesn’t want to be here then Serge should be number one for this season.