motd2 : how will they cover it?

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I try not to get too wound up by other people's opinions on our ownership but i must admit it infuriates me when they start pulling out the "look how much they've spent on players" stuff.

Firstly, "they" haven't spent a £#%&!ing thing on the club. Ever. Secondly this isn't about us buying players, this is about the way the entire club is owned and operated, because at the moment it's treated like a £#%&!ing marketing company that just so happens to have a weekend football team.

The money spent on the first team has been sporadic in their years of ownership at best. In the early years the interest payments on the debt were so enormous that despite winning 3 titles a row, a european cup and getting to back to back champions league finals, we still had to use all the money from selling Ronaldo to pay them in 2009. There has been nothing like consistent investment. The only time the club was allowed to actually invest serious amounts of money was when it looked like qualifying for the champions league was in jeopardy after ferguson left. Then as soon as that was achieved, the investment was then scaled back.

The last major work on the stadium in 2005 when the tiers were added behind the goals was already approved and paid for by the time they took over, again it had nothing to do with them. They've been in control for 16 years and the stadium hasn't had any kind of modernising done whatsoever. With the money they've siphoned out of the club you could have built a brand new 100k seater stadium to be the envy of europe.

They earmark just enough funds to ensure that qualification for the champions league happens and thus make sure the sponsors requirements are met. Patch the cash cow up to get it to the next season. That's basically their main objective. They have no plan on how to take the club forward, they have absolutely no intention of allowing the club to spend enough money to actually challenge seriously for a title any time soon and they have effectively turned a universal beacon of sustained success into perennial also-rans and a decade long running joke in the english media.

But yeah "look how much they've spent compared to PSG"

And even when we do spend money, because these @#%&!s don't even like football there's no vision for what kind of club we want to be, what to spend the money on. So we waste it on shit marketing stunts like Pogba or Sánchez.

If the owners cared about this club they'd have fecked Woodward off years ago. But they don't even notice because they still get their zillon dollar bonuses every year. And they don't watch us.

Originally Posted by andyroo

And even when we do spend money, because these @#%&!s don't even like football there's no vision for what kind of club we want to be, what to spend the money on. So we waste it on shit marketing stunts like Pogba or Sánchez.

If the owners cared about this club they'd have fecked Woodward off years ago. But they don't even notice because they still get their zillon dollar bonuses every year. And they don't watch us.

There’s no desire to actually be the best. Just good enough.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

There’s no desire to actually be the best. Just good enough.

Yeah so then we do stupid shit like paying what we did for slightly better than average players like Maguire. And the BBC tell us our net spend is more than PSG so don't complain.

There's some context here where having owners who cared would mean we mightn't even spend as much as we do. It's not the sheer volume of money that matters ffs.

Originally Posted by Fat Al

Jenas must have dirt on someone at the BBC - he's also got a regular gig presenting the One Show as well.

Well, that isn't exactly the most intellectually taxing assignment tbf

He obviously meant "glazer ownership" then it came out as "glazership" so he put "reign" on the end.

I bet he said pacifically most of his life.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I try not to get too wound up by other people's opinions on our ownership but i must admit it infuriates me when they start pulling out the "look how much they've spent on players" stuff.

Firstly, "they" haven't spent a £#%&!ing thing on the club. Ever. Secondly this isn't about us buying players, this is about the way the entire club is owned and operated, because at the moment it's treated like a £#%&!ing marketing company that just so happens to have a weekend football team.

The money spent on the first team has been sporadic in their years of ownership at best. In the early years the interest payments on the debt were so enormous that despite winning 3 titles a row, a european cup and getting to back to back champions league finals, we still had to use all the money from selling Ronaldo to pay them in 2009. There has been nothing like consistent investment. The only time the club was allowed to actually invest serious amounts of money was when it looked like qualifying for the champions league was in jeopardy after ferguson left. Then as soon as that was achieved, the investment was then scaled back.

The last major work on the stadium in 2005 when the tiers were added behind the goals was already approved and paid for by the time they took over, again it had nothing to do with them. They've been in control for 16 years and the stadium hasn't had any kind of modernising done whatsoever. With the money they've siphoned out of the club you could have built a brand new 100k seater stadium to be the envy of europe.

They earmark just enough funds to ensure that qualification for the champions league happens and thus make sure the sponsors requirements are met. Patch the cash cow up to get it to the next season. That's basically their main objective. They have no plan on how to take the club forward, they have absolutely no intention of allowing the club to spend enough money to actually challenge seriously for a title any time soon and they have effectively turned a universal beacon of sustained success into perennial also-rans and a decade long running joke in the english media.

But yeah "look how much they've spent compared to PSG"

Tremendous post.

Originally Posted by utd99

Why do they still think that kicking a ball about for a decade qualifies them to analyze anything or think critically about social issues? Half of them can hardly string two coherent sentences together ffs. They could get ten times the analysis for a tenth of the cost if they just stopped this love affair with ex pros.

They could hire some random football fans of the street who have never actually kicked football around professionally and they would offer more insight into the sport than Jenas and co.

Just throwing ex-players at punditry is stupid. I'd much rather two ex managers. In fact, I'd prefer Casey Stone to Jenas. He's a well spoken midwit.

What a £#%&!ing cretin

https://twitter.com/supernaturalbro/status/1388986307448279048?s=19

Originally Posted by Switching Off

What a £#%&!ing cretin

https://twitter.com/supernaturalbro/...448279048?s=19

They literally might as well ask a bucket of sick what it thinks. What on Earth is he doing there.

At least Shearer won things. Well, some things. Well, one thing.

Originally Posted by Zorg

At least Shearer won things. Well, some things. Well, one thing.

Originally Posted by Switching Off

What a £#%&!ing cretin

https://twitter.com/supernaturalbro/...448279048?s=19

Pretty obvious that is who Carragher was referring to as well.

Bit unfair to ask a pundit their opinion...but still happy to voice it... exposing these £#%&!ing thick shallow #@&%!s for what they are - frauds. They watch no more football or have more knowledge than the man on the street, yet they’re considered ‘experts’.

Paul Merson isn’t an expert on ANYTHING. He’s a moron. Plain and simple. Jenas thinks he’s smart, but he isn’t. Which is even worse.

Originally Posted by Dr Stranger

Pretty obvious that is who Carragher was referring to as well.

Bit unfair to ask a pundit their opinion...but still happy to voice it... exposing these f***ing thick shallow #@&%!s for what they are - frauds. They watch no more football or have more knowledge than the man on the street, yet they’re considered ‘experts’.

Paul Merson isn’t an expert on ANYTHING. He’s a moron. Plain and simple. Jenas thinks he’s smart, but he isn’t. Which is even worse.

Arrogance on souness part wrt the refs too. They haven’t played elite football so they don’t know. The refs are shite, but footballers becoming refs won’t help

Originally Posted by Dasilvatwins

Arrogance on souness part wrt the refs too. They haven’t played elite football so they don’t know. The refs are shite, but footballers becoming refs won’t help

He’s been out of the game so long, that will have changed beyond recognition for the simple #@&%!.

A few former professional footballers have become officials, I don't think they particularly stood out as better than the norm.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

Delighted isn't he

Originally Posted by Zorg

Delighted isn't he

2nd most important trophy he'd ever lift