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Unread 09-08-2023, 08:04 AM
pedr0
 
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Leverage.

Black rock and other big hedge funds own the bulk of MANU common shares. They can threaten to sell and get out if they don't like the direction of the sale.

Most of the Glazer siblings wealth is tied up in MANU stock shares. If the price plummets, so to does their net worth, and....

everytime the Glazers talk about staying, the stock price takes a nose dive.
the share structure is designed so that nobody but the glazers has any leverage. you are aware that the common stock holds 1/10th of the voting rights of the glazers preferred stock?

if the glazers decide not to sell it's because they think that longer term the club is going to be worth even more. they absolutely won't give a shit about any short term fluctuations in the price of the common stock.
 
Unread 09-08-2023, 06:03 PM
westcoastvan
 
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the share structure is designed so that nobody but the glazers has any leverage. you are aware that the common stock holds 1/10th of the voting rights of the glazers preferred stock?

if the glazers decide not to sell it's because they think that longer term the club is going to be worth even more. they absolutely won't give a shit about any short term fluctuations in the price of the common stock.
The hedge funds have leverage. The Glazer's put the club up for sale shortly after the stock hit an all time low under Ralph Rangnick.

Take Darcy Glazer, who is apparently the one who wants to sell. According to the Athletic. next to Joel Glazer she owns the most shares in the company. (Class A & B)

Let's say, Darcie Glazer's currently has £392,000,000 worth of MANU stock at current price.
If it drops down to the share price under Ralph Rangnick it's worth around £231,000,000. That's close to having your wealth cut in half.

I am of course engaging in speculation. The Glazer's may choose minority investment, but the siblings and the hedge funds will get to sell their shares out on a high if Qatar wins on a full sale.

They risk watching their wealth piddle away, if the share price plummets under minority investment, and erodes away because they can't compete with super wealth clubs.
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 01:17 PM
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Unread 13-08-2023, 01:20 PM
dunk
 
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Getting closer to that £8bn
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 01:20 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Just seen that.

How the £#%&! would he know?
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 01:38 PM
thatsfuctit
 
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MEHmet
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 01:50 PM
Sandman
 
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More than likely he was talking in dollars.
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 02:00 PM
Sparky***
 
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Just seen that.

How the £#%&! would he know?
https://x.com/mlkj_10/status/1690705...Tig51Y-d5izVYA
 
Unread 13-08-2023, 02:35 PM
ScarFace
 
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Probably means they will sell if they get that level of offer.

Potential American investment?
Cardiff have experienced extreme highs and lows since Tan arrived in 2010, with Premier League promotions and relegations interspersed with rebrands, acrimonious managerial departures and countless other controversies.

Dalman says Cardiff's Malaysian owner remains committed to the club but the chairman remains open to the idea of additional investment.

"I've been meeting a lot with US private equity funds and the valuation of football clubs is going through the roof. Americans are determined to come into this market quite heavily," said Dalman.

"I spoke to the owners of Leeds when we were there, and Championship clubs are valued at three times their revenue, give or take.

"Manchester United are going to announce their sale at £7.2bn-7.3bn, which is roughly 10 times their revenue.

"Two or three years ago, we might have been talking about selling Cardiff for about £20m or £30m but now you're going to have to look at £90m or £100m. Valuations [of Championship clubs] have all stretched.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 08:11 PM
redhegemony
 
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Just been told its Qatar 7.2bn
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 08:13 PM
Finport Red
 
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Just been told its Qatar 7.2bn
By a little Asian fella with a welsh accent, by any chance?
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 08:31 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Just been told its Qatar 7.2bn
Come on mate.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 08:50 PM
AK14
 
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Just been told its Qatar 7.2bn
Hopefully they bring eleven new players with them etc etc
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 10:13 PM
Finport Red
 
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The latest protest tactic doesn’t seem like a winner. Imagine sitting in old Trafford for an extra hour after enduring a game like tonight’s.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 10:14 PM
ScarFace
 
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The latest protest tactic doesn’t seem like a winner. Imagine sitting in old Trafford for an extra hour after enduring a game like tonight’s.
after funding them.
 
Unread 14-08-2023, 10:15 PM
Finport Red
 
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after funding them.
Yeah, and that.
 
Unread 15-08-2023, 10:20 AM
magic_cantona
 
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Just been told its Qatar 7.2bn
Anything else?
 
Unread 15-08-2023, 12:06 PM
redhegemony
 
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Anything else?
was told the announcement at the end of the week - could bizarrely be genuine but won't disclose the source. Connected to another Qatari business - probably %@#$&!s.
 
Unread 15-08-2023, 05:18 PM
AK14
 
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was told the announcement at the end of the week - could bizarrely be genuine but won't disclose the source. Connected to another Qatari business - probably %@#$&!s.
Eh up Kaveh Solhekol has logged on.
 
Unread 15-08-2023, 05:31 PM
magic_cantona
 
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Eh up Kaveh Solhekol has logged on.
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