Can Berbatov and Carrick ever play in the same 11?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Anyway, i think that Fergie should give Carrick a run out in the reserves along with Owen, Macheda, welbeck anf a few other squad players. Try and get him to play himself into form away from the spotlight. Certainlty worked for Anderson a coupla weeks back.

Carling Cup next week innit.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Anyway, i think that Fergie should give Carrick a run out in the reserves along with Owen, Macheda, welbeck anf a few other squad players. Try and get him to play himself into form away from the spotlight. Certainlty worked for Anderson a coupla weeks back.

Why on earth hasn't he done it already?

Originally Posted by Coracao

Carling Cup next week innit.

Ah yes, that'd be an excellent opportunity to do it in a vaguely meaningful game.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Anyway, i think that Fergie should give Carrick a run out in the reserves along with Owen, Macheda, welbeck anf a few other squad players. Try and get him to play himself into form away from the spotlight. Certainlty worked for Anderson a coupla weeks back.

yep. fletcher and giggs were rested and will come in for the derby, scholes is suspended, so surely anderson will play. that would give us three of the m/f four that started against spurs and i'd expect valencia to get the nod for the other spot - looked very good last night and was excellent for ecuador last week apparently.

Originally Posted by Gog Coch

Why on earth hasn't he done it already?

Because he hates you.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

Well we could have upped the bid. We chose not to..

And chelsea would have walked away? Dream on sir.

Originally Posted by Spiffy

Until he signed for Chelsea his record was pretty good wasn't it? Hargreaves was injury prone at Bayern.

You could argue Chelsea were unlucky with Essien's injuries but we knew what we were buying with Hargreaves.

The fact remains that Essien has missed massive chunks of Chelsea's title pushes which has partially led to them not winning titles. simples.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Because he hates you.

He was Ok with me last time I saw him at the old post office in Prestbury.

Originally Posted by dodger

And chelsea would have walked away? Dream on sir.




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Erm, the fee was agreed wasn't it? Why would you up the bid? The problem wasn't the fee but Essien's preference for Chelsea wasn't it?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Erm, the fee was agreed wasn't it? Why would you up the bid? The problem wasn't the fee but Essien's preference for Chelsea wasn't it?

His preference for more money I think (and "the project" whatever that means). Whatever we offered, chelsea would have bettered it.
We should also remember that we didn't look like avery good bet for glory hunters at the time and cheslea did.

Originally Posted by dodger

His preference for more money I think (and "the project" whatever that means). Whatever we offered, chelsea would have bettered it.
We should also remember that we didn't look like avery good bet for glory hunters at the time and cheslea did.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by borsuk

carrick's spell of poor form has coincided with our shift towards a more orthodox 4-4-2. for the last few years he's generally played in a team with rooney widish left and the nominal left midfielder tucked in to make a three. in other words he's generally been playing in a team that either matches or outnumbers the opposition in central midfield, allowing him to sit deep in a quarterback-style role.

this season we're playing a more traditional english midfield front six with two wide players committed to getting forward and aggressive full backs overlapping. that means the role is now playing as part of a two and that places much more emphasis on mobility. i suspect carrick is finding the transition difficult because his game is less naturally suited to being part of a midfield two. that might well explain his troubles. last night should have suited him, though, so it was worrying that he still looked uncomfortable.

incidentally, i'm of the opinion that the style we seem to be playing this season will suit the likes of anderson, fletcher and hargreaves, who are genuine box to box players and should find the role a natural fit.

yeah...but carrick's best season for the club was probably his first season, 06-07, when we played 4-4-2.

i think your wasting your time trying to look for an explanation beyond "he's in a bad run of form and is low on confidence".

he will get over it eventually, not sure being demoted to the reserves is the answer though, might damage him even further.

I'm baffled. Has the FA brought in a rule saying 2 ex Spurs players can't play in the same team?