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Unread 22-07-2019, 12:36 PM
dunk
 
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I don’t think there are many CB’s worth that sort of money anyway tbf

Van Dijk is a good player and current record for a cb? but Liverpool usually play with two defensive midfielders in front of him so he gets a load of protection.

We’ve tried buying prospects (Bailly and Linders) and although Linders has improved, it’s taken a while to get to that point.

Maguire has clearly proven he’s a very good centre back in this league. The price doesn’t bother me because it’s all ridiculous at this point, players like Tyrone Mings going for close to 30m etc shows how crazy it’s all got.

I think we should have bought Maguire last season for less than we’re being quoted now and if we don’t sign him this summer we’ll probably be trying to sign him next summer for 100m...

I do like other players like Diop and Ake, but both would cost around 50-70m anyway and I have reservations over both.
Has he though...? Genuine question. I was impressed with him at Hull when they played us in the league cup semi's, clearly their best player, but also extremely raw and cumbersome. Was laughable at the time to suggest United go for him. That was 2 seasons ago. Would you say he's done enough in those 2 seasons to go from a raw, cumbersome CB to United? I wouldn't. Again, had he been 18 or 19 in those games against Hull then fine, but he wasn't. 12 months ago we were taking the piss out of him starting for England at the WC and pointing to his averageness as evidence as to how poor England are. And absolutely incredulous that United were linked with him in the aftermath of the WC.

He's Phil Jones without the injuries, only a whole year younger. Imagine spending £80m on Phil Jones...

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If it stops Laurel & Hardy getting in the team it's cheap at half the price.

Plus he has a massive head which is sure to attract the ball in both boxes.



Finish 2nd
Refuse Mourinho the player for £60m
Mou has breakdown
Appoint ex player as manager
Finish 6th
Buy player for £80m.

Classic Ed.
Why keep peddling that line? Leicester wouldn't do business, end of. Approached them too late in the window and he'd only been there a year.

It was the alternatives presented when Maguire was a no go, Boateng, Godin etc. that Woodward refused to sanction.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:38 PM
Clownbones
 
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Has he though...? Genuine question. I was impressed with him at Hull when they played us in the league cup semi's, clearly their best player, but also extremely raw and cumbersome. Was laughable at the time to suggest United go for him. That was 2 seasons ago. Would you say he's done enough in those 2 seasons to go from a raw, cumbersome CB to United? I wouldn't. Again, had he been 18 or 19 in those games against Hull then fine, but he wasn't. 12 months ago we were taking the piss out of him starting for England at the WC and pointing to his averageness as evidence as to how poor England are. And absolutely incredulous that United were linked with him in the aftermath of the WC.

He's Phil Jones without the injuries, only a whole year younger. Imagine spending £80m on Phil Jones...



Why keep peddling that line? Leicester wouldn't do business, end of. Approached them too late in the window and he'd only been there a year.
100% this.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:41 PM
Patty_b
 
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I'd rather have him and Lindelof as our centre back partnership, than Lindelof and any other centre back we currently have.

I'd rather we signed someone with Premier League experience.

I'd rather we didn't spend a world record fee on the slab-headed £#%&!. But if that's what it takes, then it is what it is.

Just get something done asap, every day that goes by the closer we are to seeing one of the chuckle brothers starting next to Lindelof on the opening day of the season. And imo that would be more disgusting than paying £90mil for Maguire.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:42 PM
AK14
 
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Has he though...? Genuine question. I was impressed with him at Hull when they played us in the league cup semi's, clearly their best player, but also extremely raw and cumbersome. Was laughable at the time to suggest United go for him. That was 2 seasons ago. Would you say he's done enough in those 2 seasons to go from a raw, cumbersome CB to United? I wouldn't. Again, had he been 18 or 19 in those games against Hull then fine, but he wasn't. 12 months ago we were taking the piss out of him starting for England at the WC and pointing to his averageness as evidence as to how poor England are. And absolutely incredulous that United were linked with him in the aftermath of the WC.

He's Phil Jones without the injuries, only a whole year younger. Imagine spending £80m on Phil Jones...



Why keep peddling that line? Leicester wouldn't do business, end of. Approached them too late in the window and he'd only been there a year.
I honestly think he has.

I thought he had a very good word cup too.

I’m not for one minute saying he’s the best defender in the world, but I’m also not bothered if we spend a record amount on him because the way the market is these days.

Imo he’s ready to make the step up to a club like united and also think he’ll compliment Lindelöf really well too.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:43 PM
dunk
 
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I'd rather have him and Lindelof as our centre back partnership, than Lindelof and any other centre back we currently have.

I'd rather we signed someone with Premier League experience.

I'd rather we didn't spend a world record fee on the slab-headed £#%&!. But if that's what it takes, then it is what it is.

Just get something done asap, every day that goes by the closer we are to seeing one of the chuckle brothers starting next to Lindelof on the opening day of the season. And imo that would be more disgusting than paying £90mil for Maguire.
We're going into next season without a recognised number 9 because we chucked £90m at the 'best we could get/better than we have' 2 summers ago and are now stuck with him.

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I honestly think he has.

I thought he had a very good word cup too.

I’m not for one minute saying he’s the best defender in the world, but I’m also not bothered if we spend a record amount on him because the way the market is these days.

Imo he’s ready to make the step up to a club like united and also think he’ll compliment Lindelöf really well too.
Well, fair enough. I fear you're going to be horribly disappointed.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:45 PM
Clownbones
 
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I'd rather have him and Lindelof as our centre back partnership, than Lindelof and any other centre back we currently have.

I'd rather we signed someone with Premier League experience.

I'd rather we didn't spend a world record fee on the slab-headed £#%&!. But if that's what it takes, then it is what it is.

Just get something done asap, every day that goes by the closer we are to seeing one of the chuckle brothers starting next to Lindelof on the opening day of the season. And imo that would be more disgusting than paying £90mil for Maguire.
His arrival will hopefully be the catalyst for other to leave.

Rojo and Darmian should be gone already and there's surely only enough room for one lunkheaded pillock, so that should spell the end for Jones.

Him, lindelof, Smalling, Bailly and Axel is more than enough CBs.

AWB and Young at RB
Shaw and Young at RB.

Try and recoup a bit back for Darmian, Rojo and Jones. Anything near £50-£70m would be good going.

Get £60m-£70m for Lukaku and get another CM and attacking player in.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:48 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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Might attract Sancho
Catalyst for others to leave
Played in the premier League
Has a large head that may get hit with a ball


Excitement building alright....
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:51 PM
The Stella Fella
 
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I'd rather have him and Lindelof as our centre back partnership, than Lindelof and any other centre back we currently have.

I'd rather we signed someone with Premier League experience.

I'd rather we didn't spend a world record fee on the slab-headed £#%&!. But if that's what it takes, then it is what it is.

Just get something done asap, every day that goes by the closer we are to seeing one of the chuckle brothers starting next to Lindelof on the opening day of the season. And imo that would be more disgusting than paying £90mil for Maguire.
Utd have always preferred the 1 big strong stopper and 1ball carrying centrehalf pair. OGS seriously Trying to get the Bruce/Pallister or Stam/Vidic/Rio Partnership’s here with McGuire and Linderlof. Time will tell.

Also not prepared to take a risk on someone without Prem experience. They need whoever they sign to be happy with the league ASAP not like Linderlof.

Money is bonkers but it is for ALLplayers nowadays.

There is also a chance he works on certain aspects of his game and gets better........ cue the he couldn’t get any worse brigade
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:51 PM
Clownbones
 
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Might attract Sancho
Catalyst for others to leave
Played in the premier League
Has a large head that may get hit with a ball


Excitement building alright....
Oi! Watch it, Pal.

Don't pigeon-hole me with these Slab lickers.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:52 PM
atticusgrinch
 
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Might attract Sancho
Catalyst for others to leave
Played in the premier League
Has a large head that may get hit with a ball


Excitement building alright....
Don't underestimate the size of that head. Suspect he has water on the brain.

Would still prefer over Smalling.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:56 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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Oi! Watch it, Pal.

Don't pigeon-hole me with these Slab lickers.
Woah, was just updating the Pro side of the argument mate.

I'm fully aware who's on the right side of history here
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 12:57 PM
Clownbones
 
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Woah, was just updating the Pro side of the argument mate.

I'm fully aware who's on the right side of history here
Sorry, it's Maguire's head. It just enrages me.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:25 PM
Ethers
 
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Might attract Sancho
Catalyst for others to leave
Played in the premier League
Has a large head that may get hit with a ball


Excitement building alright....
Loves a meme.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:29 PM
utd99
 
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How you feel about this really depends on your perspective. I get the doubt, I do, but this is now two managers in a row that have scouted him and like what they see. I’m pretty sure they’ve done a lot more research than simply seeing him a few times in random games where you’re not really paying attention anyway.

No one likes the idea of 80m, but the market is the market. You need a player, the other club doesn’t need to sell. No doubt it’ll be something like 40m up front with 5m per season after that and 20m in various add ons that we won’t care about if he/we are performing. We have almost 700m in turnover and the sky deal was always going to make things insane. Would it be a good deal at 60? Who knows? Like every other transfer in history, the fee only matters or gets brought up again if it doesn’t work out.

I think back to the greatest centre backs of the Fergie era, and i’m pretty confident if this place had existed 30 odd years ago this forum would have wanted none of them. Bruce, cart horse. Pallister, gangly who’s only good in the air. Ferdinand, lacks concentration and makes too many errors. Vidic, turns like an oil tanker. Stam, who? Fold the club.

We have to trust that Ole has done his homework. This is what supporting the manager looks like.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:32 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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Loves a meme
Might attract Sancho
Has played in the premier League
Has a huge head that the ball could hit
Catalyst for others to leave
Possibility of a new Song
Scored in the world cup
Better than what we've got
A leader in the making
This is what supporting the manager looks like
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:35 PM
waynes ear's
 
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Loves a meme
Might attract Sancho
Has played in the premier League
Has a huge head that the ball could hit
Catalyst for others to leave
Possibility of a new Song
Scored in the world cup
Better than what we've got
A leader in the making
This is what supporting the manager looks like
sounds like Ed Woodwards briefing pack to the press
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:35 PM
utd99
 
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Loves a meme
Might attract Sancho
Has played in the premier League
Has a huge head that the ball could hit
Catalyst for others to leave
Possibility of a new Song
Scored in the world cup
Better than what we've got
A leader in the making
This is what supporting the manager looks like
He’s no Mustafa, I’ll give you that.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:38 PM
elhombre
 
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Can someone summarise where we’re up to with this?
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:39 PM
believe
 
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Can someone summarise where we’re up to with this?
We're talking about how shit a player is who isn't actually going to sign for us.
 
Unread 22-07-2019, 01:39 PM
elhombre
 
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we're talking about how shit a player is who isn't actually going to sign for us.
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