According to The Times - Hargreaves out until January '10

I see his career going in a similar way to Nev's from here on in.

how many appearances have we got from him in 2 seasons?

don't know how the medical team didn't get wind of this situation when we signed or treated it properly post signing.

Did we even give him a medical FFS?

Insurance pay out if he doesn't play again. Small mercy.

Originally Posted by Rossi the Red

Did we even give him a medical FFS?

2 sit ups, 2 press ups, 5 star jumps,bend over and touch your toes 3 times and the finishing with.... 'jog on the spot' for 15 seconds.


'yep alex, he is fit'

Originally Posted by BulgarianSpectator

Insurance pay out if he doesn't play again. Small mercy.

that's if he is a complete right off.

the way I see it, this will be a ledley king style affair.

Originally Posted by marlo

2 sit ups, 2 press ups, 5 star jumps,bend over and touch your toes 3 times and the finishing with.... 'jog on the spot' for 15 seconds.


'yep alex, he is fit'

Originally Posted by armchair

I see his career going in a similar way to Nev's from here on in.

carling cup and a dodgy 'tash? what a way to go

Originally Posted by Ether

perineum - aka the 'taint'.

('cos it ain't your balls and it ain't your arse).

Originally Posted by marlo

how many appearances have we got from him in 2 seasons?

don't know how the medical team didn't get wind of this situation when we signed or treated it properly post signing.

38 isnt it?

Originally Posted by armchair

I see his career going in a similar way to Nev's from here on in.

We'll be lucky if we get that.

Originally Posted by BulgarianSpectator

Humans are simply not designed to run and jump all the time.

That's pretty much all humans are designed to do, from a physiological point of view


let's sell hargreaves to everton on a pay-as-you-play basis

BREAKING NEWS: pictures have just been released of the chief medical officer at united

Originally Posted by bigMikeA

That's pretty much all humans are designed to do, from a physiological point of view


let's sell hargreaves to everton on a pay-as-you-play basis

BREAKING NEWS: pictures have just been released of the chief medical officer at united

I think Saha managed more in first one-and-a-half seasons at United. Lets hope it isnt a downward trajectory for Hargo like it was for him.

Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I think Saha managed more in first one-and-a-half seasons at United. Lets hope it isnt a downward trajectory for Hargo like it was for him.

mm. gutted for both players, everyone can see what a supremely gifted midfielder hargo is but the fact remains,this probably should have been spotted from what i've read about it.

Joey Deacon might be great in the air but you wouldn't go giving him a contract.

from the BBC site

Owen Hargreaves may be forced to quit top-level football in the next two years if his chronic knee problem persists, BBC Sport understands.
The Manchester United and England midfielder has had two operations to cure a tendinitis problem in both knees but the pain has yet to subside.
It is believed the 28-year-old has not yet planned a return date but is still confident of making a full recovery.
He has had only 25 starts since a £17m move from Bayern Munich in July 2007.



Hargreaves, who was seen demonstrating his ball skills during United's warm-up for the Champions League final in Rome on 27 May, has not featured for Sir Alex Ferguson's side since their 1-1 draw with Chelsea on 21 September 2008.
He underwent surgery on his right knee last November and then on his left knee in January.



The procedures were carried out under the guidance of leading American knee surgeon Richard Steadman, who has previously operated on former Newcastle striker Alan Shearer, current Magpies forward Michael Owen and ex-Red Devils striker Ruud van Nistelrooy, who is now at Real Madrid.
Ferguson has previously said that he was "certain" Hargreaves would be fit for the beginning of the 2009-2010 campaign but it is now believed there is little chance of that happening.





Hargreaves, who is halfway through a four-year contract at United, hopes to begin training with the United first team at the end of July or the start of August but he could be restricted to as little as one session per week.
Manchester United declined to comment on Hargreaves' current level of fitness, but it is believed that his injury is so delicate it can only be monitored on a day-to-day basis and stepping up the intensity of his rehabilitation programme could have potentially disastrous ramifications.



If the England international suffers a recurrence of the original problem he would face another lengthy absence.
Hargreaves aims to manage the injury as slowly as necessary before making a return when he is pain free but he will not return if he is feeling any level of discomfort.



If Hargreaves is pain free he is likely to be able to play at the top level for at least four or five more years but, if not, a premature end is likely.
His condition, patellar tendinitis, can be described as inflammation of the tendon that attaches the quadriceps (thigh muscle) to the tibia (shin bone).



It can be caused by a number of factors, including a rapid increase in the frequency of training, sudden increase in the intensity of training, transition from one training method to another, genetic abnormalities of the knee joint and poor base strength of the quadriceps.

Theres not much substance in this story thus far is there. BBC Sport Understands...

Originally Posted by thrills_pills_bellyaches

Theres not much substance in this story thus far is there. BBC Sport Understands...

Thing is it's BBC Sport, The Times, & he's been a cripple for almost 2 seasons & has a pretty grim injury record to boot anyways... looking like a pretty spectacular £#%&! up really.

franz sends his sympathy

Franz must be laughing his big, German #@&%! off to be fair.

Absolutely robbed us blind.

I think he's a far better footballer than he gets credit for.
We missed him in the 'Big Games' last season.

I'd love him to get back playing, but £#%&!ing hell coming back to full fitness after surgery to both knees is gonna be tough..if not impossible.