Manchester United v Galatasaray - CL- 8pm 03/10/23 - Official Match Thread

Originally Posted by marlo

are you joking?

Maguire and The Scottish Player on the bench has NOTHING to do with the fact we don't win games, don't see games out or hold unto a lead for more than 5 minutes against good opposition.

Correct. Against good opposition with them in the team, we never have a lead to hold on to.

Except that one time last year when we were winning 2-0 against Seville and Maguire came on. We held that lead brilliantly. For 5-10 mins, then zeppelin head dinked one into his own net.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

If it’s the same cycle, then the problem has surely to be with the players who are repeating it?

Correct.

And the chumps running things are allowing them to do it.

Things get tough “we’ll down tools and get the manager sacked, then we’ll have another two years on inflated wages under a new manager”

And on and on it goes.

Originally Posted by Finport Red

Correct. Against good opposition with them in the team, we never have a lead to hold on to.

Except that one time last year when we were winning 2-0 against Seville and Maguire came on. We held that lead brilliantly. For 5-10 mins, then zeppelin head dinked one into his own net.

so let me get this straight....

if we are to look at this game as see where it went wrong, its worth bringing up Maguire and The Scottish Player and how them being on the bench upset the moral that somehow transferred onto the pitch and played a part in us losing the game?

the fact no one else will call out this bullshit speaks volumes of the sheep we have on here.

Originally Posted by larry

if we finish 20th, 10h stays, and the glazers leave, that would be our best season since 2008.

Well since 2013 anyway

There was a time, after we won 2 trophies in 2017, when things looked to be getting better finally post-Fergie.

Our owners then decided "job done", didn't do nearly enough in that summer to build on it, and the cycle began again.

Nothing significant is changing until they go.

Originally Posted by AK14

Correct.

And the chumps running things are allowing them to do it.

Things get tough “we’ll down tools and get the manager sacked, then we’ll have another two years on inflated wages under a new manager”

And on and on it goes.

but theres a host of new players.
are you saying casimero,bruno, dalot and onana are conspiring to get eth sacked?

or are we just a unorganised mess and its the Joel glazers job to coach and organise the team so we can play to the best of our ability?

Originally Posted by larry

if we finish 20th, 10h stays, and the glazers leave, that would be our best season since 2008.

we finish 20th, ten hag leaves and the glazers stay.

Its kinda weird last few games. Very unlike United. Before I used to feel we did not deserve to win this game, played bad, but got lucky and won. Now most games I watch, I think, we look good, but then we go on to loose these games. I am seeing what Ten Hag is trying to do. There's too many individual mistakes. We loose our heads when we concede I can see that Onana might become our Bravo or Karius if he doesnt improve. I just dont get it, you can play so good football like we did for 25 odd minutes after 2nd half, but then why do you have to start playing hoofball everytime we concede? Keep your composure and play normally. Its happened so often this season, as soon as we concede, its hoofball, long passes going nowhere. Most issues seem to be mental rather than tactical. I have no doubt Ten Hag is gonna play great football if given time. I do not know if it will be with current bunch of players or a completely new team. I do not know if the new board is more patient than Ed Woodward was. Will they be able to back Ten Hag if entire fanbase goes against him like Arsenal or Liverpool did during their rebuilds? Lets see

Originally Posted by marlo

so let me get this straight....

if we are to look at this game as see where it went wrong, its worth bringing up Maguire and The Scottish Player and how them being on the bench upset the moral that somehow transferred onto the pitch and played a part in us losing the game?

the fact no one else will call out this bullshit speaks volumes of the sheep we have on here.

instead of looking at individual players and managers.. shouldn’t we be looking at what is causing every them ALL to fail so consistently???

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Well since 2013 anyway

There was a time, after we won 2 trophies in 2017, when things looked to be getting better finally post-Fergie.

Our owners then decided "job done", didn't do nearly enough in that summer to build on it, and the cycle began again.

Nothing significant is changing until they go.

That was the summer after tbf, but it was after we finished 2nd with our highest points total in area years and reached another cup final, so your point still stands.

Originally Posted by armchair

we finish 20th, ten hag leaves and the glazers stay.

Then we, literally, burn the club to the ground.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Well since 2013 anyway

There was a time, after we won 2 trophies in 2017, when things looked to be getting better finally post-Fergie.

Our owners then decided "job done", didn't do nearly enough in that summer to build on it, and the cycle began again.

Nothing significant is changing until they go.

Woodward publicly undermined the most successful manager on the planet at the time for Pogba, Martial and Luke Shaw.

That and the Moyes appointment were the two worst decisions in the club's history (that i remember).

Originally Posted by silv

instead of looking at individual players and managers.. shouldn’t we be looking at what is causing every them ALL to fail so consistently???

but the season has started, the window is closed.
all the players wages are all going in fine. its not like onana wages didnt go in like the wheelchair blonde in the office.

so right now we park all the other issues to the side...

why are we so bad at seeing a game out?
why are players not picked on merit?
why do lose all composure after we concede?

who are those questions related to?

Originally Posted by atticusgrinch

Woodward publicly undermined the most successful manager on the planet at the time for Pogba, Martial and Luke Shaw.

That and the Moyes appointment were the two worst decisions in the club's history (that i remember).

Liverpool supporter, never forget.

But even so, I suspect he was following orders there. Have to protect their RESALE VALUE, you see.

Reddevils-fan bringing some dry-pants chat to the forum. Bit of perspective. Very welcome arrival.

Originally Posted by marlo

who are those questions related to?

Who do you think?

More disgusting the amount of gala fans all over the ground a good thousand if not more all over the show. Utd are £#%&!ed from top to bottom. Literally £#%&!ing disgusting how much the @#%&!s are destroying the club.

Originally Posted by marlo

but the season has started, the window is closed.
all the players wages are all going in fine. its not like onana wages didnt go in like the wheelchair blonde in the office.

so right now we park all the other issues to the side...

why are we so bad at seeing a game out?
why are players not picked on merit?
why do lose all composure after we concede?

who are those questions related to?

Originally Posted by marlo

are you joking?

Maguire and The Scottish Player on the bench has NOTHING to do with the fact we don't win games, don't see games out or hold unto a lead for more than 5 minutes against good opposition.

or shite opposition tbh

Originally Posted by Dacter

or shite opposition tbh

andorra would give us a game

Originally Posted by Reddevils_fan

Now most games I watch, I think, we look good, but then we go on to loose these games.

Sorry mate, but that’s a straight red.

Off for an early bath with Casemiro.

Originally Posted by armchair

andorra would give us a game

We'd draw with San Marino