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here's an article on the eve of the match about our relatingship with deportivo brasil.

United and the boys from Brazil


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THOUGH the ABU's would hate it many people's idea of a dream final in the Premier section this week would be Manchester United v Desportivo Brasil.
And should that happen there would be a huge irony, despite the mutterings of the Anyone But United brigade!
For perhaps unknown to many people United have an exclusive player trading deal with the Brazilian club which is owned by a company that specialises in such arrangements.
Last November United struck a deal with Desportivo Brasil, a youth club owned by Traffic Football Management, that gives manager Alex Ferguson first option on more than 120 teenagers being groomed for European football in a Sao Paulo academy in run by World Cup winner and 'head consultant' Carlos Alberto Parreira.
Traffic also wholly or part-owns the economic rights to another 90 or so professionals via two multi-million dollar investment funds founded expressly to profit from the transfer of promising Brazilian players.
United's deal, designed to give them a competitive advantage in the global search for new talent, sheds light on the system of third-party ownership prevalent in Latin America.
United's relationship is with the first strand of the business, a youth academy affiliated to Desportivo, to "identify, train and educate new football talents and to prepare them for a professional career".
The club enters teams at under-15, under-17 and under-20 levels in the Sao Paulo regional league, with a view to selling them on to professional clubs in Brazil and Europe.
With some of the best talent in Brazil being hot-housed by Parreira, United's chief scout Ken Shackleton had no hesitation in recommending a deal that gives United first option on players produced by the club.
The relationship could reap its first reward next season if United take up their option on 17-year-old full-back Dodo.
Traffic's core business is sports media rights and sponsorship – it has the regional rights to FA Cup and England matches – but in 2005 it branched out into player management. It now operates two distinct player businesses, one based on developing players through its academy and the other on the purchase of players' economic rights, à la Carlos Tevez.
Having established Desportivo in 2005, in 2007 it set up an investment fund worth more than $20 million and used it to by shares in promising players form cash-strapped Brazilian clubs.
A second fund worth $35 million has since been started and the Traffic roster now runs to 90 players, many of whom play against each other week-in-week out with a growing number competing in the European leagues. Last summer eight Traffic players moved to Europe, generating more than €30 million in fees.
"We buy some of the economic rights of the player and hope to make a profit on them," says Jochen Losch, Traffic's head of international business.
"We pay the club to assign a claim over the player's future value to us. For example, we pay a club $1 million for 20 per cent of the economic rights of a player and agree that if they sell him for $10 million we will take $2 million. It is completely legal and in line with Fifa rules."
The exciting football-driven venture will see academy players from both clubs visiting each country for the opportunity to experience new training methods and play friendly matches.
The project, driven by Brian McClair, Les Kershaw and John Calvert Toulmin (United's South American recruitment officer), is seen as an invaluable learning curve for players.
While Desportivo have an excellent team of professionals, the Academy will provide technical support to improve Desportivo's preparation of young players, optimising the chance that players from their club will excel when moving to Europe.
United Academy coaches from different age groups will visit Brazil on a regular basis and Desportivo coaches will be welcomed on reciprocal visits. For United, this will provide invaluable insight into the way the five-time world champions approach the beautiful game.
Academy manager Brian McClair said: "It is exciting to be involved with such an innovative partnership that allows each club to glean knowledge from each other and so develop the future of football."
United chief executive David Gill, said: "This is a fantastic opportunity for our coaches and Academy players. They will gain invaluable knowledge and experience from Desportivo. Brazilian football has always been consistent and we already have a strong Brazilian contingent at the club. This will forge an even stronger relationship."
Desportivo Brasil is located in the city of Itu, an hour's drive from Sao Paulo. The club is currently putting the finishing touches to a new training complex that, when completed, will be one of the top facilities exclusively for junior football in the world.

Originally Posted by berba

here's an article on the eve of the match about our relatingship with deportivo brasil.

Not sure I like that.

Originally Posted by dunk

Not sure I like that.

but coult help us bring a few players on the cheap though. we will need that going forward.

Highlights from the game the other night here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northernireland...=manu_cantolao

Some good stuff played, especially the second goal. This Brady looks a good prospect, I'd never heard about him before.

We won on penalties tonight. Don't know much else about the match.

We're through to the final, beat Fenerbahce 2-1. Robbie Brady got the winner with a cracking long-range effort. He showed some mental strength as he missed a penalty on the stroke of half time (their player sent off) and left the field pretty upset.

On the plus side, these youngsters really do look very very comfortable on the ball and in tight spaces.

Final's tomorrow evening at 8:15, available online on BBC Sport's page if anyone's interested.

robbie brady has been excellent all week, i don't know if he was playing above his age group last season or if he has just improved a lot all of a sudden, right #@&%!y £#%&!er too

Originally Posted by SilverSurfer

We're through to the final, beat Fenerbahce 2-1. Robbie Brady got the winner with a cracking long-range effort. He showed some mental strength as he missed a penalty on the stroke of half time (their player sent off) and left the field pretty upset.

On the plus side, these youngsters really do look very very comfortable on the ball and in tight spaces.

Final's tomorrow evening at 8:15, available online on BBC Sport's page if anyone's interested.

cheers for that, will watch tomorrow. might it be live on the red button too?

Originally Posted by rebelcountyred

robbie brady has been excellent all week, i don't know if he was playing above his age group last season or if he has just improved a lot all of a sudden, right #@&%!y £#%&!er too

He's a very good player, but he should be playing through the middle.

sheff utd in the final, they just won on pens

Originally Posted by rebelcountyred

robbie brady has been excellent all week, i don't know if he was playing above his age group last season or if he has just improved a lot all of a sudden, right #@&%!y £#%&!er too

nope. highly talented and touted as the next liam brady when he joined our academy, his development has been continually disrupted by injuries. Only now he is showing anything near to his ability. If he is injury free, by the end of this year he will be in reserves along with ravel morrison.

wingers and attacking players in our reserve team are £#%&!ing shit. stewart, gray and brandy ffs. :shakehead:

can't believe brandy has gone off the boil to an extent he can't trap the £#%&!ing ball within a couple of yards of him. Another one in the long list of failed strikers at united's academy.

morrison, brady and pettruci with some one upfront will be a mouth water line up at reserve team level.

Originally Posted by berba

nope. highly talented and touted as the next liam brady when he joined our academy, his development has been continually disrupted by injuries. Only now he is showing anything near to his ability. If he is injury free, by the end of this year he will be in reserves along with ravel morrison.

wingers and attacking players in our reserve team are £#%&!ing shit. stewart, gray and brandy ffs. :shakehead:

can't believe brandy has gone off the boil to an extent he can't trap the £#%&!ing ball within a couple of yards of him. Another one in the long list of failed strikers at united's academy.

morrison, brady and pettruci with some one upfront will be a mouth water line up at reserve team level.

Ajose & King?

Originally Posted by dunk

Ajose & King?

king is too erratic and cumbersome for me. Ajose can't play the lone striker lone. May be Cofie in a year or 2 if he is consistent.

United vs Sheffield United about to start.

Johnstone

Keane
Fryers
McGinty
Thorpe

Tunnicliffe
Hussain
Ngoo
Brady

Keane
Cofie

so Morrison is suspended again

1-0 Ngoo, god he's skinny

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

1-0 Ngoo, god he's skinny

united's very own pierre crouch

Brady should be playing through the middle with Tunnicliffe.

2-0, great assist tbf

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

2-0, great assist tbf

who got the goal