gordon hill talks about the united team

You're a classic politician - spinning what was actually said into something few people can disagree with.

Of course a squad needs balance - he is not denying that.

If you read the article, he is saying the quality of player is not what it was and let's face it, if Rooney and RVP are not playing tomorrow, I bet man for man we are not better than Chelsea in more than 3 positions (DDG, Vidic and Rafael?)

In those 5 title wins Scholes was a key player and we have not replaced him. Yes we have been unlucky with RVP injuries and Carrick going offline for a period but even so, it's disingenuous to pretend there is nothing wrong with the squad

Do you honestly think Smalling is better than Brown?

We still have a good future spine (DDG, Jones, Cleverley and Welbeck) but Gordon is 100% right about our squad not being up to scratch and Moyes clearly shares that view, seeing as though he is apparently looking to get rid of some players and bring in others.

I was agreeing with the article until he started blaming fergie. Yes the squad was unbalanced but any top manager would have us better placed than moyes has us.

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

You're a classic politician - spinning what was actually said into something few people can disagree with.

Of course a squad needs balance - he is not denying that.

If you read the article, he is saying the quality of player is not what it was and let's face it, if Rooney and RVP are not playing tomorrow, I bet man for man we are not better than Chelsea in more than 3 positions (DDG, Vidic and Rafael?)

In those 5 title wins Scholes was a key player and we have not replaced him. Yes we have been unlucky with RVP injuries and Carrick going offline for a period but even so, it's disingenuous to pretend there is nothing wrong with the squad

Do you honestly think Smalling is better than Brown?

We still have a good future spine (DDG, Jones, Cleverley and Welbeck) but Gordon is 100% right about our squad not being up to scratch and Moyes clearly shares that view, seeing as though he is apparently looking to get rid of some players and bring in others.

Quiggers nails it again ...

Getting subbed in 2 FA cup finals on the spin has obviously left deep scars.

59 years old, same age as no£#%&!

Originally Posted by armchair

I was agreeing with the article until he started blaming fergie. Yes the squad was unbalanced but any top manager would have us better placed than moyes has us.

Absolutely- as others have said, where is the Moyes vision to take us forward? Fergie had one even when he was struggling pre-1990.

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

You're a classic politician - spinning what was actually said into something few people can disagree with.

Of course a squad needs balance - he is not denying that.

If you read the article, he is saying the quality of player is not what it was and let's face it, if Rooney and RVP are not playing tomorrow, I bet man for man we are not better than Chelsea in more than 3 positions (DDG, Vidic and Rafael?)

In those 5 title wins Scholes was a key player and we have not replaced him. Yes we have been unlucky with RVP injuries and Carrick going offline for a period but even so, it's disingenuous to pretend there is nothing wrong with the squad

Do you honestly think Smalling is better than Brown?

We still have a good future spine (DDG, Jones, Cleverley and Welbeck) but Gordon is 100% right about our squad not being up to scratch and Moyes clearly shares that view, seeing as though he is apparently looking to get rid of some players and bring in others.

Brown was far better than most defenders in the country

However, just to point at a direct comparison of their ability is clear evidence that Hill hasn't thought it through - surprised the silly £#%&!er didn't start babbling on about net spends as well


Sad fact is that Brown was plagued by injuries and that situation has continued at Sunderland

Smalling isn't as good as Brown but is injured far less, he's half decent on the ball, a very good defender when he's facing the game, and he doesn't seem to kick up a fuss about the way he is used. He is a very useful player in United's squad on that basis.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Brown was far better than most defenders in the country

However, just to point at a direct comparison of their ability is clear evidence that Hill hasn't thought it through - surprised the silly £#%&!er didn't start babbling on about net spends as well


Sad fact is that Brown was plagued by injuries and that situation has continued at Sunderland

Smalling isn't as good as Brown but is injured far less, he's half decent on the ball, a very good defender when he's facing the game, and he doesn't seem to kick up a fuss about the way he is used. He is a very useful player in United's squad on that basis.

Oh I completely agree with that. Smalling will be an excellent squad player at worst, a CB fixture for 6 years for us and England at best.

It's not like Hill has come out and said anything ridiculous like we should play Hernandez, Rooney, RVP, Welbeck, Nani and Young as our front 6 or anything.

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

Oh I completely agree with that. Smalling will be an excellent squad player at worst, a CB fixture for 6 years for us and England at best.

It's not like Hill has come out and said anything ridiculous like we should play Hernandez, Rooney, RVP, Welbeck, Nani and Young as our front 6 or anything.

brown being better than smalling was one of his main claims to evidence his point ffs

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

brown being better than smalling was one of his main claims to evidence his point ffs

Brown is better than Smalling - I was just saying Smalling is not that shit

Even you said Brown is better than Smalling :-)

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

Brown is better than Smalling - I was just saying Smalling is not that shit

Even you said Brown is better than Smalling :-)

are you wushing/wumming me

Originally Posted by Jez Quigley

You're a classic politician - spinning what was actually said into something few people can disagree with.

Of course a squad needs balance - he is not denying that.

If you read the article, he is saying the quality of player is not what it was and let's face it, if Rooney and RVP are not playing tomorrow, I bet man for man we are not better than Chelsea in more than 3 positions (DDG, Vidic and Rafael?)

In those 5 title wins Scholes was a key player and we have not replaced him. Yes we have been unlucky with RVP injuries and Carrick going offline for a period but even so, it's disingenuous to pretend there is nothing wrong with the squad

Do you honestly think Smalling is better than Brown?

We still have a good future spine (DDG, Jones, Cleverley and Welbeck) but Gordon is 100% right about our squad not being up to scratch and Moyes clearly shares that view, seeing as though he is apparently looking to get rid of some players and bring in others.

Originally Posted by Wart Chest

I'm hoping the power of suggestion will do its stuff on him