A Formal Apology Thread for the Knights Mourinho

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

They’ve both said as much.

Van Gaal and Jose Mourinho in blaming other people shocker!

I’d £#%&!ing fall off my chair if I heard either say the words ‘but the mistake I made...’ in the same sentence.

Originally Posted by utd99

Correct. A job he shouldn’t be doing because he’s utterly out of his depth in it, and which has very little to do with his area of proven competence. I really think he thought a combination of money and simple assessment of ‘best available’ were enough. When they weren’t, I don’t think he knew what to do. Just my opinion of course.

Probably right, I just don't know how someone could be such a bad judgment of character. I think there is something in the thought that Ed is living some fantasy Championship Manager, seduced by the fame/media attention. Can't believe this absolute gimp is running the club.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Like you say, take one approach or the other. Woodward both gave him a new contract and then £#%&!ed him over a few months later. It’s utter mismanagement. Whether that comes from the glazers constantly moving the goalposts, or Woodward himself, who knows.

I doubt the Glazers have many goalposts beyond "keep making money", they know even less about the sport than Ed. It must have been Woodward.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

I doubt the Glazers have many goalposts beyond "keep making money", they know even less about the sport than Ed. It must have been Woodward.

Though you’d have to assume they know the best way to make money is to have a successful team. Not making CL is huge.

Originally Posted by utd99

Though you’d have to assume they know the best way to make money is to have a successful team. Not making CL is huge.

We've failed to qualify for CL three times in the last six seasons and the man that has presided over the entire period pf mediocrity is now responsible for putting together a crack football structure together, the signs aren't great.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

We've failed to qualify for CL three times in the last six seasons and the man that has presided over the entire period pf mediocrity is now responsible for putting together a crack football structure together, the signs aren't great.

But no one can suggest we haven’t thrown money at it, We’ve just done it incredibly badly.

Originally Posted by Chris Quayd

I doubt the Glazers have many goalposts beyond "keep making money", they know even less about the sport than Ed. It must have been Woodward.

Moving the goalposts would be about money. Say Woodward is happy to back mourinho with his summer transfer plans in March. Come May the glazers have some reason to have a financial change of heart and tell woodward to sell players before buying any more, and we ended up with what happened.

https://twitter.com/youneshh/status/1125060608599179264?s=21

Originally Posted by utd99

He wanted new defenders because the ones he bought weren’t good enough. He buys Bailly and Lindelof and plays Smalling and Jones. Buys Dalot and plays Valencia. Buys Pogba and benches him because -surprise surprise- he’s an immature, preening #@&%!. Buys Fred and doesn’t play him. Buys Mkhitaryan and the because he’s shit swaps him for Sanchez, who’s shit.

We bang on about Guardiola because he was able to ditch a bunch of past-it players and replace them in short time, including his own duff buy of Bravo, but the players he brought in performed. Big difference.

How many players would Mourinho have wanted before he was satisfied with the ‘support’, 20? 30? Would anything have been his fault?

Most of those were Woowoo. Either cheap options to what Mourinho wanted or “big names” to big note himself and promote the brand. I don’t give a shite how lovable Mourinho was but most on here get all emotional about him one way or the other. No way in the world did he want half the players signed under his watch, which is why he was reluctant to play them ffs (viz: Shevchenko) Funny how Ole is getting pelters for being pally with the players that Mou tried to bring into line yet they still ignore him. Mou went through all this. Look at porky £#%&!ing Shaw, Martial, Dave, Lukaku etc all stinking the place out but Mou wanted them out (ex.Dave) but was undermined at every turn by that £#%&!ing muppet Woowoo.

Mourinho was right

Some players in this squad care more than others

Originally Posted by Sparky***

https://twitter.com/youneshh/status/...599179264?s=21

"This is my greatest achievement in football".

So...

Originally Posted by AK14

So...

I've already said in another thread - he was right about coming second with this lot.

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

I've already said in another thread - he was right about coming second with this lot.

He was right about quite a bit tbf.

My boy...

So he overachieved in finishing second. Presumably Ole then overachieved by winning 12 of his first 16 league games.

That means two managers have been able to greatly overachieve with this terrible squad in quite a short space of time.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

So he overachieved in finishing second. Presumably Ole then overachieved by winning 12 of his first 16 league games.

That means two managers have been able to greatly overachieve with this terrible squad in quite a short space of time.

Pretty much.

Not interested in getting into debate or stupid name calling or petulant "hope you die" shit posts from the usual suspect or WUMs from anyone

I genuinely have no idea how this gets fixed. There is nothing to be positive about right now. Nothing.

Oh sure, we can say it's not Ole's team, players etc and they are shit but, Leicester City are playing a new way of football, under a manager you and others ripped the piss out of and now Ole is saying they can finish above us. Rodgers had a plan and implemented it, with players who are apparently not good enough for us... Everyone here scoffed at Maguire in the summer... I dont believe we really were going for him but, is he any worse than what we have? According to Ole, we're gonna be a mid table team

Worse than anything Moyes ever said and we can all pretend to be "top reds" but that is £#%&!ing frightening

I love this club more than anything and its hurtful to see the current state of it

City won the league today and yet, its us that are on people's minds, because we're so shit... Disgraceful

But hey, let's blame Mourinho, even though the signs were there in 2008. Let's take the easy option... We won two trophies under the £#%&!er, got back into the CL and now we're back to trying to achieve an Europa League... Words from the current manager. If anyone on here suggested we should win the Europa League, they would ripped apart and Pop would photoshop their head in a guillotine

The outrage at it being leaked he called Pogba a virus... As wrong as he may have been in saying that in the modern game, Pogba's reaction today to the supporter spoke volumes.

We are £#%&!ed. Can pretend we're not all we want but, we are.

"Oh but Ole went unbeaten earlier in the season"
So did Moyes between end of October and December, from memory
I also had a £#%&! over Liz Hurley earlier, doesnt mean I rode her does it?

But yeah.. Ole is at the wheel. Ffs

Feels very Sparky lite that post...

Diet Sparky

Originally Posted by Brucie

Pretty much.

Not interested in getting into debate or stupid name calling or petulant "hope you die" shit posts from the usual suspect or WUMs from anyone

I genuinely have no idea how this gets fixed. There is nothing to be positive about right now. Nothing.

Oh sure, we can say it's not Ole's team, players etc and they are shit but, Leicester City are playing a new way of football, under a manager you and others ripped the piss out of and now Ole is saying they can finish above us. Rodgers had a plan and implemented it, with players who are apparently not good enough for us... Everyone here scoffed at Maguire in the summer... I dont believe we really were going for him but, is he any worse than what we have? According to Ole, we're gonna be a mid table team

Worse than anything Moyes ever said and we can all pretend to be "top reds" but that is £#%&!ing frightening

I love this club more than anything and its hurtful to see the current state of it

City won the league today and yet, its us that are on people's minds, because we're so shit... Disgraceful

But hey, let's blame Mourinho, even though the signs were there in 2008. Let's take the easy option... We won two trophies under the £#%&!er, got back into the CL and now we're back to trying to achieve an Europa League... Words from the current manager. If anyone on here suggested we should win the Europa League, they would ripped apart and Pop would photoshop their head in a guillotine

The outrage at it being leaked he called Pogba a virus... As wrong as he may have been in saying that in the modern game, Pogba's reaction today to the supporter spoke volumes.

We are £#%&!ed. Can pretend we're not all we want but, we are.

"Oh but Ole went unbeaten earlier in the season"
So did Moyes between end of October and December, from memory
I also had a £#%&! over Liz Hurley earlier, doesnt mean I rode her does it?

But yeah.. Ole is at the wheel. Ffs

Feels very Sparky lite that post...

Diet Sparky

It’s arguably taken 10 years to get into this mess. So reminiscent of Busby and Edwards sitting on their hands whilst Carlo Sartori and Ian Ure carried the torch a mere 2/3 years after being European champions. Relegation followed a couple of years later. They didn’t back the manager either. Alan Ball, Shilton etc etc we’re passed by while we signed Wyn £#%&!ing Davies as he was about to retire. Familiar? No idea if Ole is capable of turning this around or if he will be allowed to ... it will take a strong manager to sort this out but even then, he will fail whilst Glazers, Woowoo, Fergie, Gill etc etc all have their snouts in the trough. We’ve had Mourinho and Lvg, both strong and decorated careers but without support had no chance. Easy enough to be critical of them but compare the leeway Ferie was given. We’ll run out of managers before we beg Brendan to come and have a go. Don’t know about us becoming Arsenal... we’re becoming England.

Moved on from Liz, tbh. Better and younger around these days. Still would though. Nqat. Love posh birds.

Originally Posted by Denis Irwell

It’s arguably taken 10 years to get into this mess. So reminiscent of Busby and Edwards sitting on their hands whilst Carlo Sartori and Ian Ure carried the torch a mere 2/3 years after being European champions. Relegation followed a couple of years later. They didn’t back the manager either. Alan Ball, Shilton etc etc we’re passed by while we signed Wyn £#%&!ing Davies as he was about to retire. Familiar? No idea if Ole is capable of turning this around or if he will be allowed to ... it will take a strong manager to sort this out but even then, he will fail whilst Glazers, Woowoo, Fergie, Gill etc etc all have their snouts in the trough. We’ve had Mourinho and Lvg, both strong and decorated careers but without support had no chance. Easy enough to be critical of them but compare the leeway Ferie was given. We’ll run out of managers before we beg Brendan to come and have a go. Don’t know about us becoming Arsenal... we’re becoming England.

Moved on from Liz, tbh. Better and younger around these days. Still would though. Nqat. Love posh birds.

How dare you talk about the lovely Liz like that!! Apologise, immediately!

Originally Posted by Brucie

Pretty much.

Not interested in getting into debate or stupid name calling or petulant "hope you die" shit posts from the usual suspect or WUMs from anyone

I genuinely have no idea how this gets fixed. There is nothing to be positive about right now. Nothing.

Oh sure, we can say it's not Ole's team, players etc and they are shit but, Leicester City are playing a new way of football, under a manager you and others ripped the piss out of and now Ole is saying they can finish above us. Rodgers had a plan and implemented it, with players who are apparently not good enough for us... Everyone here scoffed at Maguire in the summer... I dont believe we really were going for him but, is he any worse than what we have? According to Ole, we're gonna be a mid table team

Worse than anything Moyes ever said and we can all pretend to be "top reds" but that is £#%&!ing frightening

I love this club more than anything and its hurtful to see the current state of it

City won the league today and yet, its us that are on people's minds, because we're so shit... Disgraceful

But hey, let's blame Mourinho, even though the signs were there in 2008. Let's take the easy option... We won two trophies under the £#%&!er, got back into the CL and now we're back to trying to achieve an Europa League... Words from the current manager. If anyone on here suggested we should win the Europa League, they would ripped apart and Pop would photoshop their head in a guillotine

The outrage at it being leaked he called Pogba a virus... As wrong as he may have been in saying that in the modern game, Pogba's reaction today to the supporter spoke volumes.

We are £#%&!ed. Can pretend we're not all we want but, we are.

"Oh but Ole went unbeaten earlier in the season"
So did Moyes between end of October and December, from memory
I also had a £#%&! over Liz Hurley earlier, doesnt mean I rode her does it?

But yeah.. Ole is at the wheel. Ffs

Feels very Sparky lite that post...

Diet Sparky

We still have loads of talent. The media coverage has been as manic depressive as this place. When Mou was in charge everyone said we had loads of great talent that he was stalling, then after Ole took over that was repeated. Now we apparently need a mass clear-out.

Truth is United still have plenty of talent to work with. Have to apply the same critical eye as under Mou. For a manager to have Pogba, Mata, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, Sanchez, Lukaku and some interesting youth players and for it to look so painfully shit at the attacking end is worrying. That group should be putting away most teams in this league. But all of them have lost form. The confidence is drained.

We still have issues but if - and it's a big if - we got a commanding centre-half, two quality midfielders and an exciting forward, I would expect a manager to provide a strong challenge for 3rd next season. People act like Spurs and Chelsea don't have plenty of shite.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

We still have loads of talent. The media coverage has been as manic depressive as this place. When Mou was in charge everyone said we had loads of great talent that he was stalling, then after Ole took over that was repeated. Now we apparently need a mass clear-out.

Truth is United still have plenty of talent to work with. Have to apply the same critical eye as under Mou. For a manager to have Pogba, Mata, Martial, Lingard, Rashford, Sanchez, Lukaku and some interesting youth players and for it to look so painfully shit at the attacking end is worrying. That group should be putting away most teams in this league. But all of them have lost form. The confidence is drained.

We still have issues but if - and it's a big if - we got a commanding centre-half, two quality midfielders and an exciting forward, I would expect a manager to provide a strong challenge for 3rd next season. People act like Spurs and Chelsea don't have plenty of shite.

I genuinely have no faith.

Like I said, Rodgers has players that aren't his signings and he has them playing with a clear direction and purpose. Ole doesnt and he, according to everyone on here, has better players than Leicester... Are people overestimating the players' ability or giving Ole q free ride because of the emotional impact he had on us as a player?

It's nothing new... We are all pissed off and at a loss as to what comes next. We can all put forward solutions, tactics, transfer targets etc and act like we're wise poets, spouting about how LVG was all about total football and how we should have kept him etc, or how Mou was right and we should have backed him... Fact is, none of us have a clue.

Do any of us know what Rashford is like behind the scenes for example? Mata is clearly pissed off at the club and the coaches and yet no one is connecting the dots on that one. This isn't about the media.. None of us need Ogden or Kay to tell us that we're in serious trouble.

Pogba today with that supporter... I cant even put it into words.