The fraud that is Tom Cleverley

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Welbeck didn't have the reputation of a poor finisher in his first full season. Got himself 11/12 goals at the age of 20. A good return.

Nani was on the up for a while, too. Anderson, whatever people want to say, was a major talent.

Very few players have developed well over the last few years. Do we not take some responsibility for that?

Anderson was a over hyped talent at a very young age like so many before him . Add to that a total disregard for fitness (on top of being a complete unprofessional), I am not sure how united can be blamed here.

Nani I feel was a mistake by fergie. If he had shown a bit more faith, maybe he would have developed more. But as we have seen this season and for portugal, even when managers put a lot of trust in him, he rarely delivers and all too frequently lets them down.

For me fergie could have done a lot more with the likes of rossi and pique. He put his trust in wrong players (evans and welbeck :shakehead

Can someone with a Twitter account send the @#%&! a link to this thread.

The narcissistic #@&%! won't be able to resist reading through it.

Another non-entity display from the walking mirage today.

On current form, he's a decent squad option for Capital One Cup games, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Sneintzville

If Cleverly wasn't English then he wouldn't be playing for united, he had a shocking game for us against Cardiff and its not the first time either, he looks like an average midfielder at best, he can't shoot, he can't pass further then 10 yards, he can't cross, he doesn't make runs into the box to look to score, he can't header the ball and he can't make that killer pass, Cleverly is £#%&!ing shit, hes pretty much the same age as Ramsey and look what hes doing for Arsenal, we need to drop Cleverly and put Anderson, Kagawa in, even though Anderson is a fat basterd he can shoot, pass the ball and is very strong, Anderson can have an influence on games in a positive way, Cleverly is just another overrated English player.

it was, actually

Originally Posted by Neo

Can someone with a Twitter account send the @#%&! a link to this thread.

The narcissistic #@&%! won't be able to resist reading through it.

Just created an account to do so.

And £#%&! you Tom, you massive useless botox faced preening £#%&!ing @#%&!.

Don't be mean to him personally.

He's not united class but it's not his fault ffs.

If he wasn't trying then fair enough but it's low to attack the kid for playing when asked to do so.

Originally Posted by TC23 Henchasaurus

Don't be mean to him personally.

He's not united class but it's not his fault ffs.

If he wasn't trying then fair enough but it's low to attack the kid for playing when asked to do so.

Would normally agree with you, but he deserves all the abuse for creating a website to push his brand before he'd barely kicked a ball for us. Another example of the over-indulged, overpaid and overrated modern-day English footballer.

The thing is, if he was a member of the Class of '92 he might have made it, as he's a talented player. However, the Ferraris and TOWIE girlfriends seemingly took priority for him, and have rendered his progress on the pitch a horrendous failure.

Looked like an under-15's player surrounded by actual real men like Sandro and Dembele. Runs around a lot but he's not even worth nuisance value. I wish Fletcher would come back.

This guy

Originally Posted by Neo

Would normally agree with you, but he deserves all the abuse for creating a website to push his brand before he'd barely kicked a ball for us. Another example of the over-indulged, overpaid and overrated modern-day English footballer.

The thing is, if he was a member of the Class of '92 he might have made it, as he's a talented player. However, the Ferraris and TOWIE girlfriends seemingly took priority for him, and have rendered his progress on the pitch a horrendous failure.

This - he had acquired the nickname "The Brand" after a handful of first team appearances for us, FFS :shakehead:

The thin white Anderson

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

The thin white Anderson

Harsh on Clevs. He can actually complete 90 minutes.

Originally Posted by Aman27deep

Harsh on Clevs. He can actually complete 90 minutes.

Because he's thin .

Point remains tho , he is shite . And a fraud , and a wage thief .

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

it was, actually

Yeah, ok.

Originally Posted by Aman27deep

Harsh on Clevs. He can actually complete 90 minutes.

Brutal, but fair.

It's nice that we still try to give homegrowns a shot, but a shot is all they deserve. Welbeck and Cleverley have had theirs. Next.

Originally Posted by utd99

It's nice that we still try to give homegrowns a shot, but a shot is all they deserve. Welbeck and Cleverley have had theirs. Next.

With a bolt gun , to the back of the head .

Originally Posted by utd99

It's nice that we still try to give homegrowns a shot, but a shot is all they deserve. Welbeck and Cleverley have had theirs. Next.

Welbeck has been far more promising than Cleverley.

His goalscoring record is poor, but he has a lot of excellent attributes.

He's quality on the flank of a front three, and I think he'll become a top player for us for many years to come.

Originally Posted by Neo

Welbeck has been far more promising than Cleverley.

His goalscoring record is poor, but he has a lot of excellent attributes.

He's quality on the flank of a front three, and I think he'll become a top player for us for many years to come.

you need help .

Thought Welbeck done okay at times today

Far better than Kagawa and Heather Mills on the right.