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Serious question though. Will you continue to support United under a Qatari regime? I know if I was so vehemently against something the way you are about the Qataris there’s not a chance I’d continue to support it: sea world just opened in Abu Dhabi for example and there’s no way I will go |
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Its sportswashing for a nation that is morally bankrupt, but you know, Mbappe and a new megastore. |
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Qatar will damage united and it will damage football but it won’t happen overnight. I didn’t like the Edwards family and I protested against the glazers but there’s no need for people to create false principles/dividing lines for themselves. Not liking this government isn’t sufficient reason to moving abroad. Etc etc. |
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Such a weird take.... akin to "if you don't like it £#%&! off and support Chelsea" As you say, we've had plenty of undesireables own or run united over the years. All have done damage at some point or another. Not sure the most effective form of protest is to stop supporting the club. That said, plenty did it with the glazers/FCUM. It was a tipping point for many. Nothing to say the Qataris won't be a tipping point for others. But on the other hand, somewhat conversely, it probably will mean a surge in worldwide support if we go down that route. |
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The choice of United vs Edwards or Glazers was purely a financial thing. You chose if you were willing to finance other peoples debt. The choice to give it up wasn’t that important in the grand scheme of things. Now the choice is completely different. You’re choosing between following a football team or supporting a heinous regime, that is going to ruin football, has a history of human rights abuse and slavery and won’t let you sodomize another man. Now, if you believe all these things you’re choosing to support it and finance it. I’m not sure how anyone with any morality would think football is more important than making a stand against such atrocities. I personally couldn’t sleep at night. |
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It’s unrealistic to make every decision in your life based on your preferred outcome. But you can still have a preferred outcome. It’s what I objected to about FCUM. It was you’re either with us and principled or you’re against us and have none. Neither are true positions. |
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Football has completely changed with oil money and there is no going back.
In the perfect world (for us) clubs would only be allowed to spend in line with what their revenue would support. Now the only way to be consistently competitive is to have vast reserves of wealth backing a club. The reaction to Qatar is way overblown in my view, and certainly condemning the club to mediocrity in order to burnish woke credentials that nobody really cares about is frankly absurd. Fans of every other team will be over the moon if the Qatari’s walk away from United and that tells you all you need to know. |
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As for your opinion on things made in China, I don't think you understand how many things are made in China. Regardless of that, I'm not even sure what equivalence you're trying to make in the first place Are you suggesting that if I use something made in China then I should be OK with homosexuals being tortured and people being locked up for voicing dissent? I honestly don't know what point you're trying to make. |
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