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He made an incredible save the other day, pushing a shot onto the bar at point blank range. Has denied us with incredible saves on occasion.
Lloris made 3 incredible saves at OT this season. Saves are positioning plus reaction, any keeper is capable of them. |
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23-01-2023, 01:57 PM
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I'm not sure how people can be critical of De Gea's distribution when the game play is for him to pass the ball 5-10 yards to the nearest defender which he does 30-40 times a game. I don't get it but it seems to be the new method and almost every team in Europe does it.
What De Gea suffers from is the same thing Shaw and most of our defenders have suffered from over the last ten years and that's our inability to control and dominate in the attacking areas. When you're under constant pressure from teams that dominate the attack no matter how good a player you are you're bound to make mistakes. It's no coincidence that in the handful of matches we've dominated the attack this season, no one has mentioned de Gea or Shaw other than that they've had good games. If you look at the 90's team we dominated the attack in 95% of the games we played and we limited most teams to two or three chances a game. What made the players great or even world class was to be ready for these two or three chances and keep that focus for 90 minutes. In the handful of games we were dominated by the opposition (Sheff Wed 3-1 and dippers coming back for 3 down spring immediately to mind) the likes of Schmeichel, Bruce, Irwin etc etc were more than capable of making mistakes but thankfully it rarely happened. It was the same with the team in 2006-2010. There isn't a successful side in the history of football who didn't dominate the attack and it purely boils down to the law of averages. If I had ten one on ones against Schmeichel I reckon I could make him make a mistake one time and I'm shit. If I had two I'd never have a chance. For ten years de Gea when called upon once or twice a game he's saved us plenty of times, when he's faced ten to fifteen chances he's £#%&!ed up just has many times. When Shaw was part of an England side that reached the final of the Euros he was probably the player of the tournament and he's done it plenty of times for United. It's a shame for both of them actually because they'll probably never get the credit they deserve when people talk about them in years to come. Had de Gea played in the 90's team or Shaw in the 2008 team I bet 100% they'd be remembered as great players, or even World Class. For the record I don't think anyone was really at fault yesterday, we just faced a very good Arsenal side who proved why they're top of the table and despite that I think we were unlucky to not get a point. |
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23-01-2023, 02:03 PM
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De Gea looks incredibly awkward even when making a ten yard pass. It’s like the difference between Fellaini making a short pass and Casemiro making one. So yes in basic terms it’s a simple thing, there’s still a big difference between a keeper that does it well (they basically look like outfield players) and a keeper that looks out of their comfort zone doing it. If you can do it swiftly, you don’t give the opposition forwards the time to reset and launch their press as well.
Furthermore, if there’s no short ball on, your keeper should be able to ping a mid range pass to the next bank of players. He can’t do that with any consistency and rarely even attempts it. |
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23-01-2023, 02:07 PM
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Or plonks it straight out of play, usually in his own half, giving the opposition the ball, he impetus and the opportunity to pin us in. As happened yesterday when he struggled to clear that half way line time and again.
He makes good saves, but there’s far more soft goals that he’s given a pass on imo. He had a purple patch 2015-17 when by and large he was superb, despite his weaknesses, and I was fully behind him, expecting him to improve the rest of his game, he never has, his kicking has gone backwards and his up and down form in the last 5-6 years has had him stuck to his line more than ever, until ETH has insisted on him being more positive this season. |
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23-01-2023, 02:08 PM
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Needs moving on......
He's a complete and utter fanny... |
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23-01-2023, 02:12 PM
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Sorry, last I’m saying on the matter; it’s always someone else’s fault. How many goals come from a ball across our 6 yard box? Everyone always blames the fullbacks, why is he never ready to come out and deal with the cross, ever? Why does it not happen to every other keeper with quite the regularity?
Even yesterday, that balls goes out to the winger for the first goal, where is it going? Literally one place. Across the box. 2 steps out, I step back he is in a position to pre-empt and step out and catch/punch. He never moves from the safety of the near post so Nkeitah has an empty goal. AWB should be dealing with it. De Gea should be trying. |
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When ever I’ve watched the Leeds keeper he’s come over as a bigger @#%&! than Dave.
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23-01-2023, 04:47 PM
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a absolute #@&%!. a shit #@&%!.
im firmly in the same camp as dunk and would put replacing him the priority. every time there sa cross or corner I'm £#%&!ing nervous and the #@&%! says routed to the line as if its a penalty. I don't think I've seen him come forward and gather the ball in the air. his distribution is embarrassing most of the the time. yes try and play out of the back but if the ball is returned to you hastily in quick succession just float one that cross the half way line at least. |
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