Martial

Originally Posted by shenwen

He’s not our most dangerous player. That’s Rashford. Then James. Then Martial based purely on him being the third attacker.

We’re never going to agree. I want him to be great. Hasn’t happened yet and I just don’t see it happening. Time will tell I guess

Hasn’t scored since August.

But I meant just in the Villa game. Martial is getting the most heat despite looking the more lively.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

replying to your own reply.

Pureception.

only one who can make sense of it

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Hasn’t scored since August.

But I meant just in the Villa game. Martial is getting the most heat despite looking the more lively.

Martial has never looked lively. Ever. And even in villa game he was behind the other two.

Also not sure using goals scored as the measuring stick is a good idea when talking about Martial.

Plus I don’t think he’s getting heat for the villa game. It’s more general than that imo.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

replying to your own reply.

Pureception.

Originally Posted by shenwen

Martial has never looked lively. Ever. And even in villa game he was behind the other two.

Also not sure using goals scored as the measuring stick is a good idea when talking about Martial.

Plus I don’t think he’s getting heat for the villa game. It’s more general than that imo.

It’s definitely a general thing. Martial was far more involved second half than the other two.

Prem goals record for Martial over last couple of years: 44 (22) apps; 22 goals.

Not that bad considering he’s played in defensive and generally shit sides. I think he will always get goals. If we reach a point where he’s not good enough it’ll be a good sign of our progress.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

It’s definitely a general thing. Martial was far more involved second half than the other two.

Prem goals record for Martial over last couple of years: 44 (22) apps; 22 goals.

Not that bad considering he’s played in defensive and generally shit sides. I think he will always get goals. If we reach a point where he’s not good enough it’ll be a good sign of our progress.

Do you think we need a centre forward ?

Originally Posted by utd99

You obviously weigh talent vs discipline much higher than I do. Good players are important, but a good team is more important in my book, and that involves discipline. Making allowances for players based on their ability is horrendous for morale.

Red flags; Ignore them at your peril. You think Barcelona would buy Dembele again?

Pereira is disciplined and works hard.

Originally Posted by dunk

Pereira is disciplined and works hard.

Come on now....

Originally Posted by utd99

Come on now....

2 things he can't be accused of not being tbh. Grafts and from what I can tell has an exemplary attitude. Should be right up your street, being the most important facets of being a player and all..

Originally Posted by dunk

2 things he can't be accused of not being tbh. Grafts and from what I can tell has an exemplary attitude. Should be right up your street, being the most important facets of being a player and all..

The funny thing is, we both know that wasn’t the point so your motivation for wasting these pixels is obviously something else. Fancy wasting half the day on a meaningless to and fro do we? Time to kill?

Originally Posted by utd99

The funny thing is, we both know that wasn’t the point so your motivation for wasting these pixels is obviously something else. Fancy wasting half the day on a meaningless to and fro do we? Time to kill?

Just pointing out the nonsense of your argument is all.

Originally Posted by dunk

Just pointing out the nonsense of your argument is all.

So that’s a yes then?

Originally Posted by puressence

could he see your sofa

they wouldn't let me take the sofa in strangely enough..

Originally Posted by utd99

So that’s a yes then?

That your argument is nonsense? Yes.

This idea that Martial is lazy is %@#$&!s and projecting tbh. Your idea of what he should be doing isn't necessarily correct. He's definitely one of our only dangerous players when we actually get the ball to him/get him on the ball. Having him tear-arsing around while our wonderful midfielders trip over each other would achieve very little.

Originally Posted by dunk

That your argument is nonsense? Yes.

This idea that Martial is lazy is %@#$&!s and projecting tbh. Your idea of what he should be doing isn't necessarily correct. He's definitely one of our only dangerous players when we actually get the ball to him/get him on the ball. Having him tear-arsing around achieving nothing while our wonderful midfielders trip over each other would achieve very little.

Originally Posted by Patty_b

It is.

Originally Posted by dunk

It is.

Laziest sod on the pitch (when Pogba doesn't play). It doesn't reflect well on the French.

Bags of talent, can't be arsed working to show it.

Can change a game in an instant, but is it worth putting up with 95% of £#%&! all and hoping he can do something of worth.

Originally Posted by dunk

That your argument is nonsense? Yes.

This idea that Martial is lazy is %@#$&!s and projecting tbh. Your idea of what he should be doing isn't necessarily correct. He's definitely one of our only dangerous players when we actually get the ball to him/get him on the ball. Having him tear-arsing around achieving nothing while our wonderful midfielders trip over each other would achieve very little.

Martial is lazy because I can see he’s £#%&!ing lazy. At this point it’s not even worth the debate. Even Sider’s isn’t disputing it from what I can tell, so it appears that only you out of United’s whole fan base thinks he’s completely committed. No shock there.

Your idiotic interpretation that my argument for discipline means I’m advocating for useless players based solely on the fact that they’re disciplined isn’t even worth pursuing -even though I kinda am- because it’s meaningless and purely designed to get a rise. Is Ronaldo not disciplined? Is Messi not disciplined? Van Dijk? Stop being a moron. You’d be perfectly happy making excuses for 11 Ballotelli’s it seems.

You’re an odd little character sometimes; the arguments you choose to make.

Originally Posted by utd99

Martial is lazy because I can see he’s £#%&!ing lazy. At this point it’s not even worth the debate. Even Sider’s isn’t disputing it from what I can tell, so it appears that only you out of United’s whole fan base thinks he’s completely committed. No shock there.

Your idiotic interpretation that my argument for discipline means I’m advocating for useless players based solely on the fact that they’re disciplined isn’t even worth pursuing -even though I kinda am- because it’s meaningless and purely designed to get a rise. Is Ronaldo not disciplined? Is Messi not disciplined? Van Dijk? Stop being a moron. You’d be perfectly happy making excuses for 11 Ballotelli’s it seems.

You’re an odd little character sometimes; the arguments you choose to make.

I'm odd

Originally Posted by dunk

I'm odd

Good come back; and yes.