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It's surely not as if all political statements or protests should be treated the same regardless of motive of the nature of them? |
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I don’t know if she’s homophobic, surely there’s a difference between not agreeing with something and being intolerant? |
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I don't think it matters whether she's homophobic, intolerant or whatever, as long as she doesnt actively go out of her way to discriminate against homosexuals, she can believe what she wants. She's allowed her own opinion, even if it's based on magic sky fairies.
Like Scarface said, she thinks the world is 6000 years old and the Flintstones is partly based on fact, that she doesnt personally agree with two people of the same sex £#%&!ing is the least of anyones concern. The question for me is, is the Pride Rainbow a political symbol? If it is, then no-one should be 'forced' to wear it. Noone should be forced to wear any political symbols that they don't believe in, even if it makes them look like an intolerant bint. In this case it sounds like she was dropped from the World Cup Sqaud 'cos she's shit, not for refusing to wear the rainbow. But it sounds like she had to pull out of the game with the rainbow numbers at the time as she had no other choice. |
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These things can go either way due to the sanctimonious indignation that inevitably spreads. But if these idiots who hide behind the bible to justify discriminating against people have a tougher time doing so, I don't have much sympathy tbh. Happy to leave them behind. |
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It is actually allowed to be ‘homophobic’. Some people, odd bods that they are do not like homosexuals (although mainly religious). You can’t force them to. As long as they don’t actively harm them that’s fine. Let them get on with their lives. Tgere will always be people who disagree. Tolerate them. |
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On one side, I find the whole; join in or be cancelled culture gross. the conform threshold keeps moving, and tends to be incremental. On the other side, it's a ideology of inclusion vs an ideology of exclusion. If you don't want to wear rainbow shoes because you don't want to be told what to do, and it's nothing to do with gays.. I get it. bit stubborn but I get. If you don't want to wear rainbow shoes because you think homosexuality is immoral and disgusting, and, as said may times, including on here, that it may lead to mainstream open faced noncery,then wtf. Namsayin'? |
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That said, in normal life, whether or not you respect either should be a personal choice. In the context of a team sport however, it doesn't show much solidarity if the whole team cannot show their respect for each other, especially as some of the team members will be part of the groups this woman presumably thinks will burn in hell for all eternity. Quote:
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Sure, many people would find it a bigoted stance/point of view but I reckon there's plenty of views seen as undesirable held by many sportsmen. Should they all be dropped by their national side? Quote:
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That said, in the case of racism for example, I believe there do need to be sanctions. So where is the line drawn and who draws it? Would (or should) a footballer, for example, be dropped from the national side because they don't actively support anti-racism? |
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Enjoying the debate but you’re all going back and forth about an imaginary issue. It’s only some third party religious nutter suggesting her beliefs got her ‘dropped’. She just didn’t get picked and then they wiped the floor with everyone anyway.
If she was ostracised by some gays for being anti-gay then...what’s the problem? |
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I don't see the problem. She wasn't good enough to get into the team. A team that included many homosexuals who she has apparently expressed moral opposition toward. I wouldn't want a black man who is fundamentally opposed to white people (or vice versa) representing my country. Same should apply to homophobes. Your right to believe it in but don't expect to be included. |
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From what we know at least, she hasn't discriminated against homosexuality, she just doesn't want to personally promote it. Completely separate issues. |
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