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Old 05-03-2018, 09:28 PM
Knockers
 
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The proprietor of the 24 hour offie opposite Electrik in Chorlton was a white convert to Islam. Like Barry in Four Lions. Used to dress like Friar Tuck and kick people out of the queue if they took the piss out of him. Watched him come out on top in a few jousts over the years. Could be a decent fredster given half a chance...
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:28 PM
Sparky***
 
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I think you make religion what you want.

Garbage people will be garbage people no matter what.
Well then surely you've missed the whole idea of a religion then.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:28 PM
saffers
 
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The proprietor of the 24 hour offie opposite Electrik in Chorlton was a white convert to Islam. Like Barry in Four Lions. Used to dress like Friar Tuck and kick people out of the queue if they took the piss out of him. Watched him come out on top in a few jousts over the years. Could be a decent fredster given half a chance...
Post on here.

Username sounds like berk.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:29 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Will Europe be majority muslim in 100 years time? Many converts, immigration etc.
No.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:30 PM
ZiggyStardust
 
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Surely to god religion will be dead in the western world by then

f***ing hope so
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:30 PM
irk
 
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Wouldn't go as far as being an atheist.

What's odd about being interested in the increasing influence of islam in europe? Not interested in a hateful way, just curious.



Islam is not any more mysogynistic, repressive, anti-gay, anti-woman or anti-progressive than judaism or christianity.

Christianity is the worst of the three if you look at it fairly and historically.
Probably fairer to take the present state of affairs. Islam is a cancer wherever it rears itís fundamentalist head. Itís incomparable with any other religion at this point. Where are the democratic islamic states for example?

Historically, itís record is every inch as bad as christianity and arguably much worse. And much worse than judaism.

Ive no idea why you think you should be taken seriously with such a deluded outlook.

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Post on here.

Username sounds like berk.
That doesnt make any sense does it?

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I've got no time for any of them. They're all fruit borne of the same poisonous tree.

Like I said, i don't know how anyone who claims to be a modern day enlightened liberal can defend any of it.
Kant. not you
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:36 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Democratic states that are majority Muslim? There are a few actually.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:37 PM
armchair
 
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Wouldn't go as far as being an atheist.

What's odd about being interested in the increasing influence of islam in europe? Not interested in a hateful way, just curious.
islam is a hateful religon. hates woman, hates gays.

christianty is no (or not much) better but we seem to be able to criticise christianity yet we can't say shit about islam.

Christianity and Islam are both wrong.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:38 PM
Cream
 
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Religion can be a great force for good in the world, and there's a decent argument for science's end game = finding God.

The two great mysteries converging to bring about armageddon.
 
Old 05-03-2018, 09:49 PM
Whip Hubley
 
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I'm fascinated to know why enlightened, intelligent people who have access to all the information and progress that science has brought us, still choose to believe in archaic fairy tales?



How does a modern, forward thinking liberal person align those two belief systems?

Because faith has absolutely nothing to do with logic, and science does not 'explain' everything that's going on.

Very broad definition of the term enlightened you've used there as well tbf.
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