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Old 14-02-2018, 09:12 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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I showed falcon heavy space launch to my children.
They donít get involved in church visits or religious assembly (Currently they go and play with a few others)
We just had pancakes on Ash Wednesday.
They both witnessed their gran terminal
Have been to Amsterdam pride.

Religion Iím afraid is an absolute load of bollocks...

Iíll respect your choice at social sea level, but youíre a bit fucking odd.

All religions...
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:14 PM
Ethers
 
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Why is freedom of movement a ridiculous concept?

Not being confrontational, genuinely interested to hear why.
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:18 PM
irk
 
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Why is freedom of movement a ridiculous concept?

Not being confrontational, genuinely interested to hear why.
1. resources
2. human psychology
3. culture
4. too many people in one spot and the earth will tip over

basically, the same reason no one invites all the homeless people to come and live in their house
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:20 PM
armchair
 
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Originally Posted by Ethers
Why is freedom of movement a ridiculous concept?

Not being confrontational, genuinely interested to hear why.
from a libertarian point of view, freedom of movement is fine. as long as migrants come to work and don't sign on for welfare then there's no real issues. according to them (libertarians/some conservatives) anyway.
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:24 PM
Albert Tatlock
 
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1. resources
2. human psychology
3. culture
4. too many people in one spot and the earth will tip over

basically, the same reason no one invites all the homeless people to come and live in their house
Take somewhere like the US. Admittedly it's one country. It has a federal government, but also quite strong regional government in each state, funded by local taxation.

Each state has limited resources, each state, to a large extent has different cultures and the inhabitants have, again to a limited extent, different psychologies, but since its inception it's had and still has freedom of movement. Once you are in the states legally, be it citizen or legal alien, you can move around at will
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:29 PM
irk
 
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Take somewhere like the US. Admittedly it's one country. It has a federal government, but also quite strong regional government in each state, funded by local taxation.

Each state has limited resources, each state, to a large extent has different cultures and the inhabitants have, again to a limited extent, different psychologies, but since its inception it's had and still has freedom of movement. Once you are in the states legally, be it citizen or legal alien, you can move around at will
yet you carried on with your ridiculous analogy.

I believe it's quite hard to settle in the USA and generally people go there to pursue the american dream and integrate to a greater or lessor extent. it's also vast, has enormous resources.
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:30 PM
jem
 
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Why is freedom of movement a ridiculous concept?

Not being confrontational, genuinely interested to hear why.
if everyone chooses to live in the same place, it is a little impractical.
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:31 PM
Albert Tatlock
 
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yet you carried on with your ridiculous analogy.

I believe it's quite hard to settle in the USA and generally people go there to pursue the american dream and integrate to a greater or lessor extent. it's also vast, has enormous resources.
Why is it ridiculous ?

Take jem's point. How does the US prevent everyone going and living in the same place ?
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:33 PM
irk
 
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Why is it ridiculous ?

Take jem's point. How does the US prevent everyone going and living in the same place ?
it's one country with a strong national identity and shared values. moving from new york to california might be a long way, but it's hardly moving from a hill village in bumfuckistan to royston vasey is it?

there's not so many places that are so shit you have to get away to make a life, and many people like where they live.

have you been drinking?
 
Old 14-02-2018, 09:35 PM
jem
 
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it's one country with a strong national identity and shared values. moving from new york to california might be a long way, but it's hardly moving from a hill village in bumfuckistan to royston vasey is it?
it's more likely to be called bumfuckisbannedistan, but they do it anyway, because they are hypocritical weasels.
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