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Unread 28-12-2017, 03:44 PM
Tiberian
 
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Corner the market in human cloning, not just for Fergie, but Giggs, Scholes, Evra, Rio, Vidic.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 03:50 PM
jem
 
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Timing is everything poindextor.
what's the secret of great comedy?
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 03:54 PM
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Sign Antoine Griezmann from Real Sociedad, buy Martial for less. Get Carlo Ancelotti or Pochetino as United’s next manager. Find replacements for Rio and Vidic.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 03:58 PM
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Sign Antoine Griezmann from Real Sociedad, buy Martial for less. Get Carlo Ancelotti or Pochetino as United’s next manager. Find replacements for Rio and Vidic.
if you're going to be like that, might as well say buy agüero and silva and get any coach in.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:19 PM
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if you're going to be like that, might as well say buy agüero and silva and get any coach in.
Could buy Xavi and Iniesta and you'd still have a problem with the midfield
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:22 PM
red in cumbria
 
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As i keep saying, Pep was never going to us in 2013. End of.

And of course the correct answer to the thread question is - anybody, LITERALLY ANYBODY, but Moyes
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:22 PM
LFOD
 
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Lot of talk about Mourinho. Second season doubts. Still nowhere near a title.

What we know now about Moyes lvg Mourinho

What we know about potential replacements from the time Jose Pep klopp poch giggs etc

What did you want in 2013 and....with hindsight.....what should we have done?
jose first - organized , players would come to united to play for him. likes older players which we had and had a winning history - £#%&!ing moyes , what a £#%&!ing mare. two yrs he's off then someone who like klopp would come. pep didn't want the job and still most likely doesn't. i know klopp jumps around and is a distraction so not him but some manager with attacking intent. poch is as shit v the big boys as anyone.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:22 PM
jem
 
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Could buy Xavi and Iniesta and you'd still have a problem with the midfield
true, but city would never take off without silva and agüero. then we could be top of a shit league.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:28 PM
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Mourinho was desperate for the United job in 2013 and was gutted when David£#%&!ingMoyes was announced.

At the time, I wanted Klopp or Mourinho, not Moyes and LvG wasn't even on the horizon.

Keeping Gill isn't so much about rating him personally, as good management planning. We lost the CEO, long term manager and his backroom staff all in 1 go and replaced them with the treacherous @#%&! Woodward and the management team from Everton.

FWIW, I've been told that Ferguson wanted Moyes as a straight 1-1 swap and the United backroom staff to remain in place. Moyes saw it differently and well, there you go.

If we'd got Mourinho in 2013, his playing style would have jarred but he'd have had much less shit to sort out to get a decent side together and not given city a 3 year headstart at squad building.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:34 PM
LFOD
 
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Mourinho was desperate for the United job in 2013 and was gutted when Davidf***ingMoyes was announced.

At the time, I wanted Klopp or Mourinho, not Moyes and LvG wasn't even on the horizon.

Keeping Gill isn't so much about rating him personally, as good management planning. We lost the CEO, long term manager and his backroom staff all in 1 go and replaced them with the treacherous c*** Woodward and the management team from Everton.

FWIW, I've been told that Ferguson wanted Moyes as a straight 1-1 swap and the United backroom staff to remain in place. Moyes saw it differently and well, there you go.

If we'd got Mourinho in 2013, his playing style would have jarred but he'd have had much less shit to sort out to get a decent side together and not given city a 3 year headstart at squad building.
heard he did the same many years before with stevie mac. thank £#%&! that got nixed.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:37 PM
92ToBury
 
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Giggs.

Get him through the hot seat and out of the system if he didn’t succeed.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:41 PM
jem
 
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should have dumped fergie in 2009 and got in someone who could coach.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:41 PM
Clownbones
 
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Mou for Chelsea was done, forget it. Same with Pep and Bayern.

We should have gone for Queiroz or Laudrup as I said. We'd have kept winning leagues nqat.
We should have been prepping them before they agreed to go there.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:44 PM
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We should have been prepping them before they agreed to go there.
Yeah, and prepped Ferie's departure more than anything.

The "hes a legend, can go when he wants" arguments looking sillier by the season. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:44 PM
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That 2013 squad needed rebuilding, but it would have been a squad Mourinho could have worked with. In many ways, it was his ideal type of squad - a load of players over the age of 30 who were highly experienced at the very top level, and a dressing room full of winning characters.

The biggest challenge that season was finding someone who had the mentality and confidence to take over from Ferguson, and Mourinho was literally the only man in the game who had the mindset to handle that challenge. David Moyes, ffs.

Mourinho would have most likely steadied the ship, won a title, and then moved on. The club would have felt a lot more comfortable in the post-Fergie era, and could have put a proper long-term succession plan in place thereafter.

No point crying over spilt milk now though. United should be looking to build a new, exciting, young side ready to take the challenge to City over the next few years, but I don't see much progress in that regard...
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:53 PM
Clownbones
 
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Yeah, and prepped Ferie's departure more than anything.

The "hes a legend, can go when he wants" arguments looking sillier by the season. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.
Exactly pal

£#%&!ed up the most difficult and important transition in recent times

Pep, Jose, Klopp, Ancelotti, Poch have all left clubs so it could have been to us if we'd planned right

Still paying for it now

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That 2013 squad needed rebuilding, but it would have been a squad Mourinho could have worked with. In many ways, it was his ideal type of squad - a load of players over the age of 30 who were highly experienced at the very top level, and a dressing room full of winning characters.

The biggest challenge that season was finding someone who had the mentality and confidence to take over from Ferguson, and Mourinho was literally the only man in the game who had the mindset to handle that challenge. David Moyes, ffs.

Mourinho would have most likely steadied the ship, won a title, and then moved on. The club would have felt a lot more comfortable in the post-Fergie era, and could have put a proper long-term succession plan in place thereafter.

No point crying over spilt milk now though. United should be looking to build a new, exciting, young side ready to take the challenge to City over the next few years, but I don't see much progress in that regard...
Not a Mourinho fan but we should have got him then instead of now. Good for a couple of years of steadying not a rebuild
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:56 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Exactly pal

£#%&!ed up the most difficult and important transition in recent times

Pep, Jose, Klopp, Ancelotti, Poch have all left clubs so it could have been to us if we'd planned right

Still paying for it now
And its not as if United had never faced a similar situation in their history before, of course we messed that one up spectacularly too
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 04:59 PM
Clownbones
 
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And its not as if United had never faced a similar situation in their history before, of course we messed that one up spectacularly too
Had so much time to prepare for it too.

As Saffers said all this 'leave when he wants let him choose ' stuff was £#%&!in horseshit

We let it get to 'get that Scottish guy'

Shameful
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 05:00 PM
puressence
 
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Dave whelan 12 months before he quit ? And Moyes ffs


http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...ghlight=Retire
 
Unread 28-12-2017, 05:20 PM
Shade
 
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Not a Mourinho fan but we should have got him then instead of now. Good for a couple of years of steadying not a rebuild
Would have not had to put up with Moyes' and LvG's shitc*** signings of BogBrush, Herrera, Darmian, Blind, Rojo, Depay and Schneiderlin as well.
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