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View Poll Results: If your son asks for a princess dress for christmas what would you do?
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Old 26-12-2017, 03:04 PM
irk
 
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Societal normalcy is always changing.

If 0.00001 percent of the world feel they are born in the wrong body then is it really worth forcing them to follow social norms? Not exactly shocking that trans people are overrepresented in terms of suicide stats in all countries because of how little accept there is for them.

You attack people criticising him. That's weirder imo. One thing defending his view but another to attack people who disagree with him....
Sexual dimorphism is not a cultural construct and has been constant throughout time and across cultures. Your (and everyone else’s) very existence is kind of dependent on it.

That such a small cadre of mentally ill people have such an influence on the rest of society suggests a political movement. The people in academia who advance this political movement are f***ing morons with no intellectual or scientific credibility whatsoever. This goes unnoticed thanks in part to the denunciation of anyone who objects the palpable and obvious nonsense, and the birtue signaling of its supporters.

Who could object to bing nice? Well, anyone interested in some sembalnce of truth.

Im with neo. These f***ing nutters must be stopped. Its getting entrenched.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 03:58 PM
Cream
 
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Sexual dimorphism is not a cultural construct and has been constant throughout time and across cultures. Your (and everyone else’s) very existence is kind of dependent on it.

That such a small cadre of mentally ill people have such an influence on the rest of society suggests a political movement. The people in academia who advance this political movement are f***ing morons with no intellectual or scientific credibility whatsoever. This goes unnoticed thanks in part to the denunciation of anyone who objects the palpable and obvious nonsense, and the birtue signaling of its supporters.

Who could object to bing nice? Well, anyone interested in some sembalnce of truth.

Im with neo. These f***ing nutters must be stopped. Its getting entrenched.
Don't get your knickers in a twist.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:13 PM
Lazlo Panaflex
 
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Sounds like this oddball kid has some underlying mental issues, so fair play to Lewis for publicly bringing them to light in the hope of raising awareness. Also very brave on Hamilton’s part, given the inevitable vociferous backlash from the strange social justice warriors that feel the need to justify their own pointless existence by inventing outrage over manufactured discrimination.

Hopefully his nephew gets the help he needs before he falls victim to the dangerous transgender cult, which needs to be eradicated, sooner rather than later, before it ends up becoming an established thread within the fabric of societal normalcy.
Ouch.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:16 PM
armchair
 
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the kid isn't transgender, he put on a dress that his sister got for christmas.

i dressed as a cowboy as a kid. i'm not a cowboy.

yeehar
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:17 PM
Neo
 
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Originally Posted by saffers
Societal normalcy is always changing.

If 0.00001 percent of the world feel they are born in the wrong body then is it really worth forcing them to follow social norms? Not exactly shocking that trans people are overrepresented in terms of suicide stats in all countries because of how little accept there is for them.

You attack people criticising him. That's weirder imo. One thing defending his view but another to attack people who disagree with him....
How many transgenders do you know IRL, Saffers? I work with one; a post-op who transitioned from male to female a couple of years ago. Despite being completely accepted in the workplace and social circles, he/she still has massive issues with bipolarism, bulimia and depression. This is a very damaged individual, and one who has several mental health conditions that haven't been miraculously solved by lobbing off genitalia and putting on a pair of high heels.

You talk about suicide rates in transgenders, but do you know the differences in those rates between pre and post-ops? They're virtually identical, which is a clear indicator that surgery and gender transition are not the answer here, as the suicide rates before and after surgery remain the same. It's deeper, underlying problems, that we're ignoring, that are the true issue.

What we're dealing with is mental health, and this needs to be diagnosed more effectively, and treated correctly. The social justice warriors who are simply desperate for a side to fight for in an unprecedentetly free and liberal Western world are doing far more harm than good by ignoring this and demonising those that question the long-term dangers of the trans agenda.

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Old 26-12-2017, 04:20 PM
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It really doesn’t matter tbh.

I am about as much of a traditional masculine man as you’ll find. However when I was a kid (about 2 or 3) my uncle bought me a full new Utd kit, boots and a football and took me into the garden for a kick about.

10 minutes later my mum comes out to find my uncle doing keepy uppies by himself while I merrily pushed my sister’s toy doll around in a pram.

Kids do what kids do. Leave them to it and they’ll find their own way.

Hamilton is a f***ing tosser whatever your viewpoint tbh.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:21 PM
armchair
 
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It really doesn’t matter tbh.

I am about as much of a traditional masculine man as you’ll find. However when I was a kid (about 2 or 3) my uncle bought me a full new Utd kit, boots and a football and took me into the garden for a kick about.

10 minutes later my mum comes out to find my uncle doing keepy uppies by himself while I merrily pushed my sister’s toy doll around in a pram.

Kids do what kids do. Leave them to it and they’ll find their own way.

Hamilton is a f***ing tosser whatever your viewpoint tbh.
exactly. far too many people jumping to conclusions.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:24 PM
Mr_Ed
 
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Who cares what a bloke thinks about his nephew? Social media is a curse.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:32 PM
Buck
 
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Seems light-hearted to me.

Not enough to put him in the Uncle k******d category.
 
Old 26-12-2017, 04:40 PM
irk
 
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How many transgenders do you know IRL, Saffers? I work with one; a post-op who transitioned from male to female a couple of years ago. Despite being completely accepted in the workplace and social circles, he/she still has massive issues with bipolarism, bulimia and depression. This is a very damaged individual, and one who has several mental health conditions that haven't been miraculously solved by lobbing off genitalia and putting on a pair of high heels.

You talk about suicide rates in transgenders, but do you know the differences in those rates between pre and post-ops? They're virtually identical, which is a clear indicator that surgery and gender transition are not the answer here, as the suicide rates before and after surgery remain the same. It's deeper, underlying problems, that we're ignoring, that are the true issue.

What we're dealing with is mental health, and this needs to be diagnosed more effectively, and treated correctly. The social justice warriors who are simply desperate for a side to fight for in an unprecedentetly free and liberal Western world are doing far more harm than good by ignoring this and demonising those that question the long-term dangers of the trans agenda.
People with bodymorphic dysphoria genuinely feel that part if their body (a leg or an arm) is not part of them and this alien appendage causes them great distress. Funnily enough they are without a politically organised group of agitators armed with terrible theories and so there is no great push to allow them to lop limbs off as they see fit, or writing literature to let kids choose if they want to keep two arms. Theyre treated as deluded and in need of psychiatric care.
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