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Old 22-11-2017, 01:48 PM
Switching Off
 
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Tbf the internet has been in steady decline since everyone's mum, gran, kid, journalists and the government started using it.
True dat.

Need an OG's intanet. For OG's.

 
Old 22-11-2017, 01:49 PM
armchair
 
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Tbf the internet has been in steady decline since everyone's mum, gran, kid, journalists and the government started using it.
i.e. before net neutrality
 
Old 22-11-2017, 01:50 PM
Bunker Buster
 
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So I would imagine do the ISPs and big corporations. Anonymity is not the same as open access.

Pay to play, or huge throttling
But tor keeps your net activity out of the hands of advertisers, if more people used it the better it becomes...
 
Old 22-11-2017, 01:51 PM
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It's a step towards getting poor people off the internet, reducing the passing of information, reducing piracy and increasing the profits of the larger companies. It's evil. As is everything done by just about everyone with any power as they are bought by big business.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 01:54 PM
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It's a step towards getting poor people off the internet, reducing the passing of information, reducing piracy and increasing the profits of the larger companies. It's evil. As is everything done by just about everyone with any power as they are bought by big business.
They basically want to reduce the internet into a virtual shopping mall, so why wouldn't you want the f***ing riff raff not able to access it. They're not going to buy anything.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 01:58 PM
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They basically want to reduce the internet into a virtual shopping mall, so why wouldn't you want the f***ing riff raff not able to access it. They're not going to buy anything.
That's balls.

It's far easier to convince a million people to give you a quid then it is to convince 1 person to give you a million pound.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 02:05 PM
shenwen
 
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It's a step towards getting poor people off the internet, reducing the passing of information, reducing piracy and increasing the profits of the larger companies. It's evil. As is everything done by just about everyone with any power as they are bought by big business.
Basically
And they will use the "heavy user" argument to justify it. And loads will buy into it. Same as happened with mobile providers. Limited data options. And ad/platform-funded options. Facebook tried the same with its "free" internet in India. Free, but only the sites and apps we allow.

As Lok said, independent ISPs will be the answer, but I have literally no idea how that works. Community-funded ISPs?

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That's balls.

It's far easier to convince a million people to give you a quid then it is to convince 1 person to give you a million pound.
Absolutely. Amazon/Alibaba will provide free access for that. And loads of credit lines

Look at China. The Alibaba and Tencent infrastructure is insane. Shopping, online payment, credit services, social, Online video, gaming, banking, logistics, cloud. No cash needed. Ever. And all that lovely customer data for the advertisers

Hope it all eats itself

(As long as Fred and my football streams survive)

Last edited by shenwen; 22-11-2017 at 02:13 PM.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 02:26 PM
dunk
 
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They basically want to reduce the internet into a virtual shopping mall, so why wouldn't you want the f***ing riff raff not able to access it. They're not going to buy anything.
They'll make the bits they want us to use accessible and affordable, and squeeze out the rest and make it prohibitively expensive.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 02:28 PM
Sparky***
 
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They'll make the bits they want us to use accessible and affordable, and squeeze out the rest and make it prohibitively expensive.
exactly, big brand names and movies with some food outlets. like a big expensive shopping mall.
 
Old 22-11-2017, 02:29 PM
Cream
 
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I remember Chomsky talking about the internet ages ago, saying it will go (or already had gone) the way of radio. Started off as a free and exciting resource....
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