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Old 02-10-2017, 09:13 AM
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Human nature doesn't need changing, we're a cooperative species, it's how we've managed to top the apex. What does need challenging is the myth or accepted truth that we are just a bunch of selfish, greedy, individualistic nihilists. Some obviously are and the tragedy is that they seem to set all the agendas, mostly because the rest of us just let them.
Human nature innit
 
Old 02-10-2017, 09:16 AM
TripDownMiseryLane
 
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Human nature innit
Touché
 
Old 02-10-2017, 12:00 PM
MonkeyOnMyBack
 
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How to stop micro communism entering your household.

 
Old 02-10-2017, 12:32 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
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How to stop micro communism entering your household.

https://twitter.com/joncstone/status/914149368479043584
Incredible
 
Old 13-10-2017, 10:19 PM
waynes ear's
 
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Enjoying this

Upto the Tet offensive
 
Old 13-10-2017, 10:26 PM
Fat Al
 
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f**king Americans.

Whiny b***hes.

60,000 dead over 10 years in a war with modern weapons.

Look at some of the carnage on the battlefields of WW1 - while the Yanks sat there safe & neutral making money of both sides.

f**k them.

A Yank soldier once asked a mate of mine, in a bar in Canada, why there were no Brits in Vietnam. His reply? "We thought the VC were doing fine without our help"
 
Old 13-10-2017, 10:49 PM
red red robbo
 
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f**king Americans.

Whiny b***hes.

60,000 dead over 10 years in a war with modern weapons.

Look at some of the carnage on the battlefields of WW1 - while the Yanks sat there safe & neutral making money of both sides.

f**k them.

A Yank soldier once asked a mate of mine, in a bar in Canada, why there were no Brits in Vietnam. His reply? "We thought the VC were doing fine without our help"
According to the commentary on the WWI Battlefield game, the Ardennes offensive is still the most costly American battle in terms of casualties. Yes they were late to the party (as usual) but they certainly got stuck in.

As for us declining to help out, I like to think it's because the whole sorry mess was down to the French and they never gave us due recognition or hauling their arses out of the shit the last time.

The Tet Offensive was bloody mad. How the hell they managed to get so many soldiers into position throughout the country. You'd never manage that these days, what with satellites and drones and what have you. You can also see how the yanks thought they'd delivered a knockout blow. To have the stomach to lose all those men (& women) and still carry on.
 
Old 13-10-2017, 10:52 PM
Fat Al
 
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According to the commentary on the WWI Battlefield game, the Ardennes offensive is still the most costly American battle in terms of casualties. Yes they were late to the party (as usual) but they certainly got stuck in.

As for us declining to help out, I like to think it's because the whole sorry mess was down to the French and they never gave us due recognition or hauling their arses out of the shit the last time.

The Tet Offensive was bloody mad. How the hell they managed to get so many soldiers into position throughout the country. You'd never manage that these days, what with satellites and drones and what have you. You can also see how the yanks thought they'd delivered a knockout blow. To have the stomach to lose all those men (& women) and still carry on.
The day the USA declared war on Germany in WW1, they were still manufacturing and selling equipment to both sides.
Now, i have no problems with that - sitting back and making money out of it.
However, if you do that don't f**king give it large about 'defending freedom & democracy' you hypocritical c***s.
See WW2 for similar.
 
Old 13-10-2017, 11:11 PM
red red robbo
 
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The day the USA declared war on Germany in WW1, they were still manufacturing and selling equipment to both sides.
Now, i have no problems with that - sitting back and making money out of it.
However, if you do that don't f**king give it large about 'defending freedom & democracy' you hypocritical c***s.
See WW2 for similar.
They weren't the only ones either. Although the other countries may not have given it the "defenders of the free world" shit.
 
Old 14-10-2017, 09:27 AM
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Some weird stuff on this thread. Superpower attacks small third world nation destroys its infrastructure and crops using chemical weapons - mass slaughter- war crimes. Yet Ho Chi Minh didn't pay his milk bill on time.

The wider political issues are interesting - why they blundered on for so long - the lessons of the French were there - similar to Afghanistan i guess. It says something about the American psyche - no one can beat them - they think. Probably banned in the USA as it says the AK47 was superior to the M16.

Of course there were North Vietnamese atrocities they were fighting a war that relied primarily on people.

The Documentary does expose some huge flaws in US Foreign and domestic policy and don't see it as kind to them. It emphasises the tipping point approach so more Vietcong are killed than can be replaced.
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