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Old 13-06-2014, 03:46 PM
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Bit rubbish at the old defending. Puts in a decent cross though. Moyes would've wanked himself to death if he'd signed him.
If we had Moyes right now, we'd have possibly signed Kroos, Shaw and Fabregas by now
 
Old 13-06-2014, 03:52 PM
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Think some of you are missing an important point. The are some in the football world that see United as in a decline, unlike us eternal optimist fans that look at 2 or 3 good signings and we'll be flying again. Some consider other things like Fergie retiring, Vidic leaving, Rio leaving, Giggs retiring, our best striker in Van Persie having a poor season last season, our best midfielder in Carrick having a poor season last season, they add all that up and think we are on the slide. I don't think it will happen, but ask any Liverpool fan that was watching around 93 if they thought nearly a quarter of a decade on they would not have recovered and they would have said no.

And here's the issue, if a player that we are trying to sign is thinking that way then there is only one way to convince them different, and that will be meeting with Van Gaal, listening to his plans, listening to his vision, and more importantly believing in his plans and buying into his vision. If a player is not convinced that we are still a force and will challenge again then the future needs to be sold to him, thats part of Van Gaal's job, but until he gets behind the desk he is unable to do the job.

United are the biggest club in the country, the most famous club in the world and that will still be enough for some players, and there will be players excited by the prospect of helping us get back on top, but there will also be others who think we are on the way down and that Chelsea, City etc are going to be the dominant force over the next 5 years, and thats how far in front most players will look.

We are still signing superb sponsorship deals, this is largely due to Woodward selling the future to the sponsors, making sure they are convinced this is just a slip and not the start of a fall. Until Van Gaal can do the same for players then some will look elsewhere.
 
Old 13-06-2014, 05:55 PM
The Return of JC
 
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Originally Posted by Marvel7
Think some of you are missing an important point. The are some in the football world that see United as in a decline, unlike us eternal optimist fans that look at 2 or 3 good signings and we'll be flying again. Some consider other things like Fergie retiring, Vidic leaving, Rio leaving, Giggs retiring, our best striker in Van Persie having a poor season last season, our best midfielder in Carrick having a poor season last season, they add all that up and think we are on the slide. I don't think it will happen, but ask any Liverpool fan that was watching around 93 if they thought nearly a quarter of a decade on they would not have recovered and they would have said no.

And here's the issue, if a player that we are trying to sign is thinking that way then there is only one way to convince them different, and that will be meeting with Van Gaal, listening to his plans, listening to his vision, and more importantly believing in his plans and buying into his vision. If a player is not convinced that we are still a force and will challenge again then the future needs to be sold to him, thats part of Van Gaal's job, but until he gets behind the desk he is unable to do the job.

United are the biggest club in the country, the most famous club in the world and that will still be enough for some players, and there will be players excited by the prospect of helping us get back on top, but there will also be others who think we are on the way down and that Chelsea, City etc are going to be the dominant force over the next 5 years, and thats how far in front most players will look.

We are still signing superb sponsorship deals, this is largely due to Woodward selling the future to the sponsors, making sure they are convinced this is just a slip and not the start of a fall. Until Van Gaal can do the same for players then some will look elsewhere.

Spot on and nicely put
 
Old 13-06-2014, 05:57 PM
The Return of JC
 
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And Utd have won 5 of the last 8
My point was more that players will look at the present.
 
Old 13-06-2014, 06:04 PM
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