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Old 07-03-2018, 04:04 PM
red in cumbria
 
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Yes, Sally James was an early door crush of mine.
Me too, she was fab
 
Old 17-03-2018, 03:11 AM
ScarFace
 
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Dawkins debate. Not seen the whole thing yet just this clip.


Clip

Full debate
 
Old 17-03-2018, 08:07 AM
irk
 
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Mehdi Hassan there, one of the supposed moderates confessing a literal belief in the koran. Literal.


A real moderate.
 
Old 17-03-2018, 10:55 AM
rubbernecker
 
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Mehdi Hassan there, one of the supposed moderates confessing a literal belief in the koran. Literal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZAfYpdn468

A real moderate.

I have major disagreements with Hasan and his politics but this struck me as a bit strange and at odds with my perception of him

I was curious enough to google ' Mehdi Hasan says Non-Muslims are Animals ' and see if his remarks were taken out of context , a case of youthful raging against the man etc

First article was this reply from him which i'll post in the interests of fairness

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehd...b_1742497.html
 
Old 17-03-2018, 12:19 PM
irk
 
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I have major disagreements with Hasan and his politics but this struck me as a bit strange and at odds with my perception of him

I was curious enough to google ' Mehdi Hasan says Non-Muslims are Animals ' and see if his remarks were taken out of context , a case of youthful raging against the man etc

First article was this reply from him which i'll post in the interests of fairness

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/mehd...b_1742497.html

as a defence it rings somewhat hollow. he literally believes every word of the Koran. he has asid as much. he literally believes that Mohammed rode to the moon on a horse and split it in half with his sword because that is what it says in the Koran.

the passage in the Koran in which non believers are derided as cattle etc is also the literal word. we can assume then that this is what he thinks of non believers as it is the literal word of god. that he considers some muslims also to be cattle is of no consequence.
 
Old 17-03-2018, 12:57 PM
rubbernecker
 
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as a defence it rings somewhat hollow. he literally believes every word of the Koran. he has asid as much. he literally believes that Mohammed rode to the moon on a horse and split it in half with his sword because that is what it says in the Koran.

the passage in the Koran in which non believers are derided as cattle etc is also the literal word. we can assume then that this is what he thinks of non believers as it is the literal word of god. that he considers some muslims also to be cattle is of no consequence.
TBH I don't give a f*** about people's religious beliefs.IMO it's just a book of stories to underpin a system of control but if it brings people comfort as individuals then that's their business and good on them.

As long as the state and religion are kept apart and religious types leave my belief systems alone then who am I to dictate to them.
 
Old 17-03-2018, 05:20 PM
irk
 
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TBH I don't give a f*** about people's religious beliefs.IMO it's just a book of stories to underpin a system of control but if it brings people comfort as individuals then that's their business and good on them.

As long as the state and religion are kept apart and religious types leave my belief systems alone then who am I to dictate to them.
and there is the crux of the matter with Islam
 
Old 17-03-2018, 07:13 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/AutobahnEU/...zBvB1zTEu2VjQc

Why is this not a big sport? It looks f***ing awesome.
 
Old 17-03-2018, 07:39 PM
Albert Tatlock
 
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https://www.facebook.com/AutobahnEU/...zBvB1zTEu2VjQc

Why is this not a big sport? It looks f***ing awesome.

Brilliant !
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