anyone else think this is all gonna come to nothin?

Can't see MUST(PFJ- officials) ever doing anything tangible tbh

redknights .... got me doubts that real money will ever be on the table

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

Can't see MUST(PFJ- officials) ever doing anything tangible tbh

redknights .... got me doubts that real money will ever be on the table

maybe your right - but one things for sure, if we ever do buckle under the financial strain those blood sucking leaches have put the club under, at least the core of fans who tried to do something about it can be proud of their efforts. Rather we fight and die (and consider all options along the way) than just sit there with our pants round our ankles and get fucked in the ass to death.

thats a good analogy

cant help but think tho that thats exactly what MUST are doing - sitting there with ther pants round there ankles .


When if ever are they going to call for a boycott - they have the mandate now - they have the membership - now its time to call for action. Pick a home game all walk out or all not attend

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

thats a good analogy

cant help but think tho that thats exactly what MUST are doing - sitting there with ther pants round there ankles .


When if ever are they going to call for a boycott - they have the mandate now - they have the membership - now its time to call for action. Pick a home game all walk out or all not attend

I completely agree, and would love to see a full on protest outside the ground on such a match day. Many people would still try and attend, but of course if they announced the fact a month or so in advance, and got properly organized, there could be a green and gold army of thousands surrounding the ground/blocking the entry points. It would generate major global publicity and would certainly be my next strategic move (if I was sat at the MUST/Red Knights Round Table].

and a further note. As some of you know I have been living abroad for years, and therefore am not a match going member (so it's relatively easy to say 'I wouldn't go to such and such a game that MUST announce should be boycotted). However I tell you here and now - I would fly back to Manchester to join in the protests if such a boycott, and a call to form a picket line, ever took place.

I think it's gonna come to nothing because:

a) the glazers don't give a fuck if people are protesting. they are over in florida so what do they care about a few people wearing scarves etc.

b) if people boycott, other bums will be on seats

c) there is no indication that they will sell. they obviously have/had a plan of some sort.

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Originally Posted by koppas

I think it's gonna come to nothing because:

a) the glazers don't give a fuck if people are protesting. they are over in florida so what do they care about a few people wearing scarves etc. perhaps, or perhaps the continual bad PR against them will start to take effect.

b) if people boycott, other bums will be on seats Depends on the form that a boycott takes. If it was well organized I am sure that several thousand in picket lines would cause a major problem for those that wanted to ignore such a boycott.

c) there is no indication that they will sell. they obviously have/had a plan of some sort. the only people who can stop the plan from working is the fans themselves, but of course the global fanbase need to get involved (and not just the match goers). I think that's why Obama's PR company were called into action by MUST, and the fact that they succeeded in getting more new members in 5 days than MUST has in 10 years* is proof that they are shit hot at their job.

the problem with the boycott idea has always been the same: that the goal is not clear. 'force the glazers to sell' is fine, but for them to sell there has to be a buyer and until now there has not been. quite a few things suggest the red knights are serious - the presence of people with experience and reputations in the field, the comments of observers familiar with those individuals and, crucially, the increase in price of the bonds, suggesting serious investors view the a takeover as realistic.

how will it all pan out? who knows, but imo the best we can reasonably hope for is for outside investors to come in who will pay off the debt and allow the club to function without that burden. the red knoghts' statements about involving fans in a model along spanish lines are very positive imo.

Originally Posted by Child of Darkness

When if ever are they going to call for a boycott - they have the mandate now

They have mentioned it but I doubt they'll call for it as they currently have a successful campaign and when the boycott inevitably fails then it could bring down the whole campaign.

They don't have a mandate for boycott. You want a boycott. I'd like a boycott too if I'm honest but expecting everyone to boycott is unrealistic. My problem with you is that you seem insistent on painting anything that isn't a complete boycott as a total failure. That's completely missing the point (even if it is in total earnest.)

people who want to sell don't normally go 'whoo hoo make me an offer' - everyone has their price, there will be a point where it makes sense for them to cut and run.