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Old 21-01-2010, 10:14 AM
goatboy
 
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Do you mind if I take your letter as a basic template? I posted in the ideas thread that a template and list of e mail addresses for MP's would be a good idea as it would spur people into action, like myself, who aren't good at letter writing.
You can use this site to find your mp and e-mail and postal details

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

HTH
 
Old 21-01-2010, 10:43 AM
TravellingRed
 
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You can use this site to find your mp and e-mail and postal details

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/

HTH
Ok cheers, I know mine used to be Geraldine Smith but this is a help with regards to contact details, thanks.
 
Old 21-01-2010, 08:41 PM
Whip Hubley
 
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well done borsuk, great effort. i've sent my own recently so hopefully i'll have replies soon - i'll post as soon as i have
 
Old 21-01-2010, 09:20 PM
King Schlong
 
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Good stuff Borsuk.
 
Old 21-01-2010, 09:47 PM
Big Norm
 
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This is great work Borsuk but I am concerned with the response from the Tories. As a Tory victory looks likely in the forthcoming election would it make sense to start targetting more informed tory candidates who look likely to win their respective seats as they may have the most influence, or chance of a post in the culture and sports ministry?
 
Old 22-01-2010, 05:35 AM
borsuk
 
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This is great work Borsuk but I am concerned with the response from the Tories. As a Tory victory looks likely in the forthcoming election would it make sense to start targetting more informed tory candidates who look likely to win their respective seats as they may have the most influence, or chance of a post in the culture and sports ministry?
yes, i think it would. but i'd target all candidates in your local area because this is the kind of issue which can attract cross-party support.

the key is to keep the pressure up. i'm travelling atm but when i get back home and have a chance i'll reply to the replies i got with the questions i posted.

keep the pressure on, and remember these people work for us (well, for you). they're not doing anybody any favours, it is their duty to represent their constituents. get a meeting, every mp has a day in the week in their constituency - probably friday - when they hold surgeries (meetings with anyone who wants to meet them). phone up, arrange a time, get some information together about the debt, about andy burnham's call for action and about uefa's proposals and go see them face to face. and press for firm commitments, not blather.

personally i think the most fruitful route, which i haven't done anything with yet, is the european parliament. write to your mep and arrange a meeting. it's easy to do - one phone call is all it takes.
 
Old 20-03-2010, 06:47 AM
borsuk
 
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Dear Mr Campion

Thank you for your speedy response. I have written to all major political parties with similar questions and yours was the most prompt response, which reflects well on your party. I should also say that, although I am writing on my own behalf and do not represent a group or organisation, my correspondence does form part of a broader campaign and your response will be made available to other interested individuals via football supporter forums and the like.

Your response is positive, which is welcome, but speaks in general terms of a problem which is not a hypothetical or potential issue in the future but very much a real issue today; the situation is already quite clear and merits concrete policy response. Four questions in particular present themselves:

1. You mention that the problem will need to be addressed 'if it becomes apparent that... [fans'] dedication is being taken advantage of'. How will this become apparent? What are the criteria? Are these criteria not already being met in the cases of Portsmouth FC (through the owners' rank dishonesty) and Manchester United FC (through the mechanism of ticket price increases and heavy-handed treatment of peacefully protesting fans)?

2. Related to the above, at which points in the past were fans taken advantage of? How is the current situation different from these cases?

3. How specifically will the problem be addressed? In other words, what concrete steps would a Lib Dem government take?

4. Michel Platini's proposals are in the public domain, having been accepted by UEFA's governing committee. Are the Lib Dems in favour of their implementation or against?


Once again, thank you for your prompt response to my initial email. I look forward to your reply.


Sincerely




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On 15 Jan 2010, at 18:47, CAMPION, Oliver wrote:

Dear Mr xxxxxxxx,

Thank you for getting in touch with Don Foster regarding the suggestions made by Michel Platini. Don has asked me to respond on his behalf.

The Liberal Democrats believe the integrity of English football is a priority equal only to the experience of its fans. If it comes apparent that their dedication is being taken advantage of - as we believe it frequently has in the past - then this is a problem that needs to be addressed. Although a change in European law would be a difficult thing to bring about, we are happy to consider Mr xxxxxxxx suggestions to see if they would provide a better deal for fans, as you argue.

Once again, thank you for contacting Don on this matter.

Kind regards ,

Oliver

Oliver Campion-Awwad
Parliamentary Researcher
Office of Don Foster MP
Liberal Democrat MP for Bath
Shadow Secretary of State for Culture, Media & Sport
Tel: 02072194805 | M: 07746957588
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Old 20-03-2010, 06:48 AM
borsuk
 
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Dear Mr Gardikiotis

Thank you for your speedy response. I have written to all major political parties with similar questions and yours was the most concrete and informed response, which reflects well on your party. I should also say that, although I am writing on my own behalf and do not represent a group or organisation, my correspondence does form part of a broader campaign and your response will be made available to other interested individuals via football supporter forums and the like.

As I said, your response is positive, which is welcome, but still speaks in general terms of a problem which is not a hypothetical or potential issue in the future but very much a real issue today; the situation is already quite clear and merits concrete policy response. Four questions in particular present themselves:


1. A stronger fit and proper persons test will indeed be welcome, but will do little to affect debt levels, or potential debt levels. I think it unlikely that Malcolm Glazer, for example, would fail any such test, but the levels of debt he has placed upon Manchester United are, in many ways, more dangerous to the club than the presence of an individual such as Flavio Briatore would be, however questionable the behaviour of the latter may have been. What concrete steps would the Labour Party suggest to deal with the problems of increasing debts in football?

2. The comments of the previous Secretary of State for Culture, Andy Burnham, regarding levels of debt incurred (especially but not exclusively) during takeovers were very well received amongst supporters groups; the more lukewarm response of the FA was also noted. What steps does the Labour Party propose to push the apparently less enthusiastic FA towards stronger regulation, and does the Ministry have concrete proposals to achieve this end? As you say, 'more can be done', and surely there is no doubt now that ticket price hikes are not a hypothetical worst-case scenario but a harsh reality. Indeed, in the case of Manchester United season ticket prices have risen by 48% since the club was taken over by Malcolm Glazer, with further rises expected in coming seasons. Traditional working class support is simply being priced out of the game, with predictable results for the health of the game and its connections to the local community.

3. The statement 'it is for the football authorities to run the game' is seductively simple. However, government still has a role to play in regulating an industry which represents an important part of the nation's cultural and social fabric. Further, where there are concrete proposals from the governing bodies (UEFA) it is surely incumbent on the government to take a clear and loud position on these proposals and to use what pressure it can bring to bear to effect such changes as it can.

4. Your comment on supporters' trusts is welcome. What concrete steps can the government take to bring this about? As i am sure you are aware, the presence of supporters trusts on the board of football clubs is, sadly, not seen as an undiluted boon by the owners of most clubs. It appears unlikely that such enlightened policies will be introduced without regulatory coercion; what, therefore, does the Labour Party propose to do to bring about such an outcome?


Once again, thank you for your prompt response to my initial email. I look forward to your reply.


Sincerely


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On 20 Jan 2010, at 13:00, GARDIKIOTIS ROBERT wrote:

Dear Mr xxxxxxxx


Thank you for your e-mail of 13 January addressed to the Minister for Sport, Gerry Sutcliffe, regarding football regulation.

We are following closely the proposals that have been made by UEFA to introduce what they have termed ‘financial fair play’ to their European competitions. The football authorities in this country are now involved in the discussions and consultations with UEFA on how to turn those proposals into practical effect. The hope is that for the long-term good of the game those discussions reach a positive outcome, whilst ensuring that our clubs are not put at a commercial or sporting disadvantage.

I can understand why fans are becoming increasingly concerned at the level of debt accumulated at some clubs from takeovers. We have asked football to look at a single, strengthened fit and proper persons test to improve the financial scrutiny of new owners. This is something that we will continue to raise with the football authorities in our ongoing discussions with them.

To their credit football has recently made significant moves to toughen regulations, with an early warning system for tax debts and a ‘going concern’ test introduced. But more can still be done. The level of debt that football clubs carry has to be sustainable and not result in fans incurring unaffordable hikes in ticket prices.

However it is for the football authorities to run football and not the Government, but we have an interest as an investor in its grassroots and role as a critical friend to the game. We would also like to see more supporters trusts established to provide elected fans with a voice on the board of clubs to provide additional scrutiny.


Kind regards

Robert Gardikiotis
Department for Culture, Media & Sport
Public Engagement & Recognition Unit

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Old 20-03-2010, 06:49 AM
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Dear Ms Jenkins

Some weeks ago I sent an email concerning Conservative policy with regard to football regulation and received a reply from Ms Nicola Sheldon (quoted below). This response, however, gives rise to further questions, which it appears should now be addressed to you.

First let me thank you, as a party, for your speedy response. I have written to all major political parties with similar questions and yours was amongst the most prompt responses, which reflects well on your party. I should also say that, although I am writing on my own behalf and do not represent a group or organisation, my correspondence does form part of a broader campaign and your response will be made available to other interested individuals via football supporter forums and the like.

Your response is positive, which is welcome, but speaks in general terms of a problem which is not a hypothetical or potential issue in the future but very much a real issue today; the situation is already quite clear and merits concrete policy response. Three questions in particular present themselves:


1. The proposed regulations relate to clubs participating in european competition, not the national leagues; they therefore represent an attempt to ensure a level playing field, preventing the kind of state-supported spending conducted by Real Madrid in recent years. The issue of ceding control does not arise - the FA will still govern the English Premier League, the Football League will still govern the Championship and lower divisions. UEFA's proposals will affect only those clubs participating in the Champions League and the Europa League. Given that, does the Conservative Party see the specific suggestions of M. Platini as worthy of support or not?

2. Given that this issue is very much a current one and one of great importance to many voters, it would surely be appropriate for the Conservative Party to take a position before the next election and not, as you suggest, only in the case of electoral victory. At the risk of stating the obvious, it is difficult to choose to vote for a party which will commit only to determining its policy stance after the election.

3. If the Conservative Party is determined that football regulation should remain purely a national matter (though, of course, it is already a matter for FIFA (at a world level) and UEFA (at a european level), in addition to the FA and the Football League), then what changes, if any, would the party implement at the national level once in power?


Once again, thank you for your prompt response to my initial email. I look forward to your reply.


Sincerely


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On 19 Jan 2010, at 13:46, SHELDON, Nicola wrote:

Dear Mr xxxxxxxx,

Thank you very much for your email about football regulation and the proposals outlined by Michel Platini. It was very kind of you to let us have your views.
The Conservative Party are great supporters of the game of football and the good it can do in local communities. We have seen, first hand, the power of football up and down the country and absolutely agree with you that football is more than just a business.
However, we do believe that the financial regulation of clubs should be done on a national rather than European basis. We will look to protect the specificity of sport and maintain subsidiarity and autonomy from Europe rather than cede control of our national game to UEFA.
If we win the next election, we will look very closely at the issues you have outlined, and the solutions proposed by UEFA, but with a view to finding a solution at a national level.
Thank you again for your e-mail.

Kind regards,

Nicola Sheldon
Researcher to Hugh Robertson MP
Shadow Sports and Olympic Minister


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Old 20-03-2010, 04:28 PM
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Excellent work, Borsuk - love the way you've got responses from all 3 main parties - tres . Not sure I like the conservative 'national over Europe' approach.

Whats your thoughts on their comments.. ?
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