Var

Originally Posted by NedKelly

Is there no way they can implement a hawk eye type thing? Getting sick of the dodgy calls every week, surely a machine doing it all becomes way more accurate and we can cut out the annoyingly long stops in play that occur while we wait to hear what’s happened.

Thought about that, is there no way to train an AI to make the decision in a matter of seconds instead of letting Dave loose with his digital pencil case?

Originally Posted by Patty_b

Thought about that, is there no way to train an AI to make the decision in a matter of seconds instead of letting Dave loose with his digital pencil case?

Genuinely feels like there’s more controversial calls than ever because VAR draws more attention to them. If you’re gonna implement it might as well make it some high tech shit that is beyond human capabilities.

Originally Posted by jem

indeed. made it look far closer than it was.



not just that, but they need to make it clear what constitutes playing the ball. is it when the passer's foot first touches the ball? or when it leaves his foot? in between, there will be many frames of misshapen ball (leave it, bellers). if it is first point of contact, that gives plenty of advantage to the attacking team.

Correct. This is why offside - which theoretically should be as objective as goal line tech - is causing so much consternation. Given the miniscule margins involved, unless a precise determination of what constitutes the forward pass (exact initial contact or exact final contact), exactly when the measurement is going to take place, and the technology refined enough to handle it, then it’s always going to be both objective and subjective; a player could literally be both onside and offside in the same move.

Var was brought in for a reasonable enough purpose, and possibly this couldn’t have been known until it was implemented, but it may well be that football just isn’t a good candidate for this level of scrutiny. In the old days there was plenty of moaning about decisions, but the sentiment was always that refs were human, and human error, while not desirable, was part of the game. The problem with VAR is what it represents; it represents to be a solution to these errors and it’s clearly not. It just shifts the responsibility to another human with better gadgetry.

Managers are moaning more than they ever did under the old system.

Originally Posted by armchair

If they can't see an obvious error like the red card on greenwood, what's the point?

Yes, the problem with VAR is that it is not being applied appropriately. If it was, most people would see it as a good thing overall.