Messi's Hat-Trick last night

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

Of course there's no shame in losing to Barcelona, but the way we lost was about as frustrating as it get's.
To simply 'not turn up' in a European Cup Final is unforgivable really.

Indeed.

But compared to 'not turning up' against Burnley and Leeds, I find it pales in comparison.

Originally Posted by Stickman

as if.

We were steaming through them before the goal flipped the complexion of the match.

Same formation at the Emirates, I take it that was to 'not lose' too?

Seriously...

*translation* Ronaldo was trying to win the game on his own for a bit.

He's right, they scored quite late in the game and we had no time to recover.

Originally Posted by Stickman

as if.

We were steaming through them before the goal flipped the complexion of the match.

Same formation at the Emirates, I take it that was to 'not lose' too?

Seriously...

For about 9minutes then.

The Emirates was a different match against different opponents. It worked beautifully because apart from anything else we're a far better team than Arsenal. It clicked on the night.
But we didn't have Fletcher in Rome...which was key.

We should have put pressure on their Back4 by playing 2 upfront & 2 wingers to occupy their stand in fullbacks - Silvinhio FFS

Originally Posted by Stickman

as if.

We were steaming through them before the goal flipped the complexion of the match.

Same formation at the Emirates, I take it that was to 'not lose' too?

Seriously...

Flipped a little too easy though didn't it.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

*translation* Ronaldo was trying to win the game on his own for a bit.

He's right, they scored quite late in the game and we had no time to recover.

so SAF decided to hold on to a 1-0 defeat did he?

Originally Posted by MJ Ramone

For about 9minutes then.

I would say the start was enough to suggest we weren't out there to contain them.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

Flipped a little too easy though didn't it.

Not sure how its the gaffers fault that the spine of the team decided to play like @#%&!s the rest of the match.

are we really discussing what went wrong in rome?

Originally Posted by Stickman

so SAF decided to hold on to a 1-0 defeat did he?

I don't think SAF could have done much to be honest. They were obviously a far superior team to us and their midfield toyed with us as times. Bit hard to do much tactically when you haven't got the ball most of the time.

Originally Posted by believe

are we really discussing what went wrong in rome?

Its slag the manager season so I thought id stick up for him a little.

Originally Posted by believe

are we really discussing what went wrong in rome?

That's already been solved tbh. It was the gladiators youtube clip Guardiola showed his team of warriors before the match. SAF showed Coronation street.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

That's already been solved tbh. It was the gladiators youtube clip Guardiola showed his team of warriors before the match. SAF showed Coronation street.

what cracks me up is that if Tenerife had a striker with even half the talent of Ickle Michael Owen, they'd have been 5-0 up in the first ten minutes.

Barca's defence is currently worse than ours. FACT.

it's unbelievable that a team like United can win 3 titles on the trot in a league that includes the likes of arsenal and chelsea, whining southern @#%&!s though they may be. but could they fluke their way to the s/f and back-to-back finals of a competition that the likes of milan and, gasp (for i can barely speak their name) barcelona and breath, play in as well? surely not.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

it's unbelievable that a team like United can win 3 titles on the trot in a league that includes the likes of arsenal and chelsea, whining southern @#%&!s though they may be. but could they fluke their way to the s/f and back-to-back finals of a competition that the likes of milan and, gasp (for i can barely speak their name) barcelona and breath, play in as well? surely not.

uh-huh, yep, uh-huh..

whine. whine. whine.

Ronaldo's stiill better than Messi

hth

Originally Posted by £#%&! KFC

Ronaldo's stiill better than Messi

hth

He's probably more 'explosive' & more imposing than Messi. Good in the air, lightning quick etc..

But Messi's as good a dribbler as I've ever seen. He's up there with Maradona.
He's also got more finesse...more graceful in his general play.
His ability is less about 'tricks' & more about an ability to make the ball do what he wants.
He also doesn't pout & whine at the Ref every 5 seconds either.

They're both outstanding players mind you.
I'd have Ronaldo back at United like a shot. Madrid looked almost as pedestrian as us last night.

Originally Posted by £#%&! KFC

Ronaldo's stiill better than Messi

hth

He isn't even close and never has been. Apart from in the air(mainly because of Ronaldo's height) Messi is better at just about everything.

Not a bitter post, have always held this view.

Originally Posted by Appletango

He isn't even close and never has been.


Not a bitter post, have always held this view.

agreed Ronaldo is way better

Originally Posted by Appletango

He isn't even close and never has been. Apart from in the air(mainly because of Ronaldo's height) Messi is better at just about everything.

Not a bitter post, have always held this view.

I wouldn't agree with that at all.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I wouldn't agree with that at all.

They are both great players, 2 of the best 3 players in the world imo.

Messi scores just as many goals as Ronaldo which people never seem to realise.