Fall Guy Wes

Originally Posted by Appletango

"International class", "as good as Brazil's right back", "in the top class of right backs". To me these do not all mean the same thing.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Djimi Traore has a champions league winners medal.

Was he fitst choice right back for the full season for the winners of that CL and was he also first choice right back for the PL winners that year too?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Was he fitst choice right back for the full season for the winners of that CL and was he also first choice right back for the PL winners that year too?

No, he was first choice left back.

Originally Posted by Appletango

No, he was first choice left back.

Your point is?

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

"International class", "as good as Brazil's right back", "in the top class of right backs". To me these do not all mean the same thing.

Fair enough. I see what you are saying. Maybe I worded it wrong.

The point I was trying to make is Englands weakest position IMO is right full back.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Your point is?

He asked me a question, I answered it.

England's weakest positions by a million miles are goalkeeper and forward with the exception of Rooney

Originally Posted by Appletango

No, he was first choice left back.

In a PL/CL double winning team?

Originally Posted by Appletango

I'd have to disagree.

Maicon?

07-08? nope. now, yeah, fair shout. but 07-08 wes was outstanding.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Djimi Traore has a champions league winners medal.

So has Greening, quick Fabio, call him up FFS

Originally Posted by Pete's Shoes

England's weakest positions by a million miles are goalkeeper and forward with the exception of Rooney

bang on. with joe cole out, left midfield is next. right back is far from a weakness.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Djimi Traore has a champions league winners medal.

Wes Brown's got 2

Originally Posted by Appletango

He asked me a question, I answered it.

Log off.

It's for your own good.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Log off.

It's for your own good.

Originally Posted by Pete's Shoes

So has Greening, quick Fabio, call him up FFS

Are you purposely missing the point? Your agreeing with me with that statement.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Are you purposely missing the point? Your agreeing with me with that statement.

I haven't got an agreeing

England have a lot of average players, Barry, Milner etc. They will get to the Quarter Finals of the World Cup at best.

A Manchester United player will be blamed for their exit.

Originally Posted by Pete's Shoes

I haven't got an agreeing

Read the thread again. You will see how your statement backs up my point.

So thanks.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Read the thread again. You will see how your statement backs up my point.

So thanks.

Your original point was that Wes Brown is not international class. I disagree strongly regardless of how many Champions league medals Traore or indeed Brown has.

He didn't get much support from WP, who was bobbins.