Fall Guy Wes

Originally Posted by Pete's Shoes

Your original point was that Wes Brown is not international class. I disagree strongly regardless of how many Champions league medals Traore or indeed Brown has.

Someone said Wes was right back for the champions league winners in 2008, I said Traore was left back in 2005 for the champions league winners.

My point being, individual honours don't make one great.

I suppose it all comes down to how you determine International class, it was probably a bad choice of word from myself.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Someone said Wes was right back for the champions league winners in 2008, I said Traore was left back in 2005 for the champions league winners.

My point being, individual honours don't make one great.

I suppose it all comes down to how you determine International class, it was probably a bad choice of word from myself.

Like it's been said (repeatedly) we are judging Brown on his entire career, many top class performances and a rather impressive medal collection hampered only by bad luck on serious injuries.

Don't admit to getting something wrong a third time on a thread - the mods have a 3 strikes and you're out rule. HTH.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Someone said Wes was right back for the champions league winners in 2008, I said Traore was left back in 2005 for the champions league winners.

My point being, individual honours don't make one great.

I suppose it all comes down to how you determine International class, it was probably a bad choice of word from myself.

Fair play, it's all about opinions

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Like it's been said (repeatedly) we are judging Brown on his entire career, many top class performances and a rather impressive medal collection hampered only by bad luck on serious injuries.

Don't admit to getting something wrong a third time on a thread - the mods have a 3 strikes and you're out rule. HTH.

Medal collection means nothing when judging a player.

Wrong, how so? My opinion is my opinion, you disagree with it, doesn't make me wrong, doesn't make you wrong.

HTH.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Medal collection means nothing when judging a player.

Wrong, how so? My opinion is my opinion, you disagree with it, doesn't make me wrong, doesn't make you wrong.

HTH.

Probably just a bad choice of words.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Probably just a bad choice of words.

Possibly. However I don't see how medals determine how good a player is. I thought they determined how good a team was.

Yeah. Probably.

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

Yeah. Probably.

Glad to see you can see I am right.

I hope the media remember their outspoken support of the 'respect the ref' campaign if England should get knocked out of the world cup by a bad refereeing mistake.

I'd hate them to come across as hypocrites.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Glad to see you can see I am a right @#%&!.

Didn't take long tbh candid

Originally Posted by Charlestown Rouge

I am a @#%&!.

Anyone can do that. Must try harder.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I hope the media remember their outspoken support of the 'respect the ref' campaign if England should get knocked out of the world cup by a bad refereeing mistake.

I'd hate them to come across as hypocrites.

Ha ha, can't wait for that.

Originally Posted by Appletango

Glad to see you can see I am right.

That's really pathetic