Why/how is Fellaini keeping Herrera out?

Originally Posted by Crumps

Was in the Metro last week where Pure read it.

All that on the back some random German blogger suggesting it.

No reports in any proper papers in Germany or England.

Express, Metro FFS. :shakehead:

Arsenal had a lot of the ball, had us pressed back for much of the game, kept the ball well etc, but they created nowt. Even the 1 clear chance they had came from a dropped %@#$&! from United.. If United had put that performance in and lost we'd be slagging them off nqat. Arsenal are shithouses though and got what they deserved.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Rooney would have slid the ball across for Di Maria to have virtually a tap-in and Di Maria's was a sitter.

Both miles better chances than Arsenal had.

btw...

:shakehead:

Di Maria's one on one in stoppage time was a clearer chance than all of Arsenal's (including the one they actually scored!) except maybe that Wilshere one where he fecked it straight at Dave. The other one though in the first half, that would've been an extraordinary goal and it wasn't far wide.

Of course Welbeck could've picked his spot but instead turned his back on it

Originally Posted by That Boy Ronaldo!

All that on the back some random German blogger suggesting it.

No reports in any proper papers in Germany or England.

Express, Metro FFS. :shakehead:

FritzTissue exclusive then?

Originally Posted by Crumps

FritzTissue exclusive then?

99 Fredballoons

Originally Posted by dunk

Arsenal had a lot of the ball, had us pressed back for much of the game, kept the ball well etc, but they created nowt. Even the 1 clear chance they had came from a dropped %@#$&! from United.. If United had put that performance in and lost we'd be slagging them off nqat. Arsenal are shithouses though and got what they deserved.

It was the same result and performance as last year and you completely wrote that off

Originally Posted by believe

It was the same result and performance as last year and you completely wrote that off

Was 0-0 last year. Now that was a £#%&!ing awful match.

Originally Posted by andyroo

Was 0-0 last year. Now that was a £#%&!ing awful match.

in desert years that's 2-1 pal

Originally Posted by andyroo

Was 0-0 last year. Now that was a £#%&!ing awful match.

I was thinking about the other game

Originally Posted by Sufferin Succotash

You've got me convinced. We were awesome and dominated the game. Should have won by six or seven.

Wonder how you have got so much red rep so quickly, pol?

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

Wonder how you have got so much red rep so quickly, pol?

It's the standard welcome package from Fred. Any new user cops it

They're usually accused of being a returned flouncer too.

Originally Posted by believe

It was the same result and performance as last year and you completely wrote that off

One was at OT and one at the Emirates. Hth.

Going to the Emirates with a vastly depleted squad, scoring twice and creating 2 or 3 other rally good opportunities works for me in the circumstances, the OT game had us lumping the ball long at RvP clinging on to a 1-0 for dear life whilst creating nowt.

Originally Posted by Sufferin Succotash

:shakehead:

Assuming you're not wumming pal, here's the difference imo. Shearer said Arsenal "should have been a million miles out of sight" when they hadn't even scored a goal and Wilshere missed their only gilt-edged chance. I said United "could have" won by three or four when we were already winning by two and had Di Maria's chance and a brutal offside call. Hardly the same, is it?

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Assuming you're not wumming pal, here's the difference imo. Shearer said Arsenal "should have been a million miles out of sight" when they hadn't even scored a goal and Wilshere missed their only guilt edged chance. I said United "could have" won by three or four when we were already winning by two and had Di Maria's chance and a brutal offside call. Hardly the same, is it?

Woeful decision, inexcusably poor officiating. However it is unlikely that scenario would have occurred without the fortunate first goal when Fellaini is marginally offside then fouls Gibbs. Arsenal responded in an absurd manner, like a bunch of kids rushing forward in a panic, one pass and Utd were through, should not happen at that level.

Deserved to lose for the pathetic way they reacted, reflects poorly on Wenger the way they abandoned their structure.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

He is match fit and training which is why he is on the bench

See, I keep telling myself that, but then our record in training is not great when it comes to injuries. So if it really was a 'wait til he is fully healed' situation would Van Gaal really risk Herrera going through our training sessions?

Would be interesting to know if he is fully taking part in the training sessions or is he having a far less risk minimal contact individual training session?

Originally Posted by Tiberian

Woeful decision, inexcusably poor officiating. However it is unlikely that scenario would have occurred without the fortunate first goal when Fellaini is marginally offside then fouls Gibbs. Arsenal responded in an absurd manner, like a bunch of kids rushing forward in a panic, one pass and Utd were through, should not happen at that level.

Deserved to lose for the pathetic way they reacted, reflects poorly on Wenger the way they abandoned their structure.

That is Wenger's Arsenal in recent times in a nutshell. If he was still on the ball he'd have sorted it long since.

The foul on Gibbs was cute and perfectly timed - but the Arsenal defender and GK should have done a lot better ffs

The offside was at 1-0 and though it should have resulted in a stick-on goal there's no way you can say it definitely would have - for example, there was a simple chance for Rooney after that to lob the RB and send Di Maria think it was clear but his pass hit the defender in the chest ffs...

on the Herrera thing, not sure what the issue is tbh - he's had a rib injury. Meanwhile LVG has gone with other members of his squad (including Fellaini) and United have tightened up, are competing well enough even with the top teams - teams that the usual cretins on here said would batter us - and are beginning to settle.

this has given LVG the luxury of allowing Herrera time to learn about his team-mates and the various systems, so that when he comes back in he'll have a better chance in a more confident team. it's up to the player to force his way back in now, which might not have been that easy with Carrick back, but for Blind's injury.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

That is Wenger's Arsenal in recent times in a nutshell. If he was still on the ball he'd have sorted it long since.

The foul on Gibbs was cute and perfectly timed - but the Arsenal defender and GK should have done a lot better ffs

The offside was at 1-0 and though it should have resulted in a stick-on goal there's no way you can say it definitely would have - for example, there was a simple chance for Rooney after that to lob the RB and send Di Maria think it was clear but his pass hit the defender in the chest ffs...

I retained some sympathy for him a couple of years ago, when they weren't spending money but kept their place in the top four in the face of vast spending by City and Chelsea. But when you see them drop the best part of £80m in the summer and fail to address such obvious weaknesses, it's incredible.

Lot of their fans now getting more than curious about what a change might do.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I retained some sympathy for him a couple of years ago, when they weren't spending money but kept their place in the top four in the face of vast spending by City and Chelsea. But when you see them drop the best part of £80m in the summer and fail to address such obvious weaknesses, it's incredible.

Lot of their fans now getting more than curious about what a change might do.

tbh i really meant the way his teams have set about chasing a game over the past 2 or 3 years. the 8-2 at OT springs to mind. they've collapsed a few times - chelsea 6-0 as well wasn't it? compare that with Ferguson when United did the same against City - he was at them straight away and shut up shop in the league for weeks - 4 of the next 5 games were won 1-0 looking at the records but it went on a bit longer than that before he let them back off the leash at xmas