United working on a deal for Toby Alderweireld

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Wouldn't mind seeing Mensah get a game tbh.

Mourinho will probably end up playing young there with shaw as left back.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Ironic given that one of our only few successful signings in the last 4 years was Zlatan.

I don't care how old they are, would be nice if some of them would show something resembling top quality on a regular basis.

Agree. But less so if two years from now all their legs are gone but we have them on three more years' of contract.

I'd be happy with Alderweireld and another, but five near 30yo would be a bit mad.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

I'd be happy with Alderweireld and another, but five near 30yo would be a bit mad.

Real Madrid team from CL Final

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 31
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 32
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 30
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 32
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos
AM 22 Spain Isco
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 30
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 33


Varane the youngest btw - 25


The age thing is a nonsense. Quality is all that matters. We don't have enough.

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Real Madrid team from CL Final

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 31
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 32
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 30
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 32
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos
AM 22 Spain Isco
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 30
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 33


Varane the youngest btw - 25


The age thing is a nonsense. Quality is all that matters. We don't have enough.

yeah but what did they get apart from winning 3 champions league titles on the trot?

Pffft. No thanks. I'd much rather have some 20 year olds learning on the job please.

I said elsewhere I'm not too fussed re age profile - more quality and the right attitude at the minute, United are lacking both. However 4 or 5 in one window pushing 30 would be ****, and I'm not convinced that's what JM wants anyway given the two outfield players that have arrived already.

Nothing happening re that other Croatian winger? He looked good at the WC.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Wouldn't mind seeing Mensah get a game tbh.

me too.........preferably for Watford

Originally Posted by Sparky***

yeah but what did they get apart from winning 3 champions league titles on the trot?

Pffft. No thanks. I'd much rather have some 20 year olds learning on the job please.

Are people deliberately ignoring the fact we have four, five and sometimes six 29+ starters already, or are you just being thick?

Originally Posted by Ethers

Are people deliberately ignoring the fact we have four, five and sometimes six 29+ starters already, or are you just being thick?

I'm ignoring it. can't speak for the others.

Originally Posted by carrick_16

https://twitter.com/RickSpur/status/1022244034327334919

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I'm ignoring it. can't speak for the others.

This.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Are people deliberately ignoring the fact we have four, five and sometimes six 29+ starters already, or are you just being thick?

Point being age is largely irrelevant if the quality is there


We have an ageing team that's low on quality


WATTBA

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Real Madrid team from CL Final

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 31
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 32
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 30
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 32
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos
AM 22 Spain Isco
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 30
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 33


Varane the youngest btw - 25


The age thing is a nonsense. Quality is all that matters. We don't have enough.

An old team like that can win a final tbf.

It can also end up 17 points behind Barca and finish 3rd in a two-horse race.

Besides, if Mou got his five you'd be talking about, what, eight of our line up being 30 odd?

Originally Posted by Buck

Fosu Mensah, Dalot or Darmian can fill in

Dalot is out until September and Darmian is shit.

Big Tim it is then.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Good.

Never thought I'd say this but I'm with the board. This £#%&!er would replace Rashford with Glenn Murray given half the chance.

McClair, Bruce, Anderson, Leighton, Hughes, Webb, Phelan, Ince, Pallister, Wallace. First two and a half years.

Hated youth did Fergie.

Originally Posted by Big Norm

According to twitter, Valencia is out for 6 weeks with a calf problem.

Good

Originally Posted by Whip Hubley

Point being age is largely irrelevant if the quality is there


We have an ageing team that's low on quality


WATTBA

I’ll take 11 players over 29 if they actually £#%&!ing played some good football and won now and again. Or do people think a team of youngsters under Mou would be playing scintillating football?

Could look at the Real Madrid final team that row the third in the row (unchanged from the previous seasons starting 11 I think) another way, I don't think it's as simple as "old players can win stuff". Instead it shows the merits of signing players at a younger age and developing them into the first team. The continuity was key to their success IMO, a settled squad. You don't get that by plugging 30 year olds in for a couple of years, despite the short-term benefits a player like Zlatan may have brought.

That doesn't mean that signing an experienced player is automatically an issue.

These are the ages that Madrid's Champion's League final starting 11 were signed at.

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 27
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal 21
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane 18
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 19
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 19
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 26
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro 21
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos 24
AM 22 Spain Isco 21
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 21
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 24

Hopefully the balance can be found, because there has at least been some attempt to sign players for the future by Mourinho, even if they haven't all worked out. I think that team shows the benefit of signing players before their prime, and allowing them to develop into not only the most experienced players at the club, but also the players with the experience of the club.

Originally Posted by 20LEgend1999

Could look at the Real Madrid final team that row the third in the row (unchanged from the previous seasons starting 11 I think) another way, I don't think it's as simple as "old players can win stuff". Instead it shows the merits of signing players at a younger age and developing them into the first team. The continuity was key to their success IMO, a settled squad. You don't get that by plugging 30 year olds in for a couple of years, despite the short-term benefits a player like Zlatan may have brought.

That doesn't mean that signing an experienced player is automatically an issue.

These are the ages that Madrid's Champion's League final starting 11 were signed at.

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 27
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal 21
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane 18
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 19
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 19
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 26
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro 21
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos 24
AM 22 Spain Isco 21
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 21
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 24

Hopefully the balance can be found, because there has at least been some attempt to sign players for the future by Mourinho, even if they haven't all worked out. I think that team shows the benefit of signing players before their prime, and allowing them to develop into not only the most experienced players at the club, but also the players with the experience of the club.

Absolutely spot on. I was going to make a similar point but you put it better. They haven't signed loads of old players; they signed loads of talent at great ages which has helped them build a team. But even with that they now realise they have let it get a little bit old.

Fortunately for them they'll be able to cherry-pick young talent again to refresh the squad post-Ronaldo.

Originally Posted by 20LEgend1999

Could look at the Real Madrid final team that row the third in the row (unchanged from the previous seasons starting 11 I think) another way, I don't think it's as simple as "old players can win stuff". Instead it shows the merits of signing players at a younger age and developing them into the first team. The continuity was key to their success IMO, a settled squad. You don't get that by plugging 30 year olds in for a couple of years, despite the short-term benefits a player like Zlatan may have brought.

That doesn't mean that signing an experienced player is automatically an issue.

These are the ages that Madrid's Champion's League final starting 11 were signed at.

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 27
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal 21
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane 18
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 19
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 19
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 26
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro 21
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos 24
AM 22 Spain Isco 21
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 21
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 24

Hopefully the balance can be found, because there has at least been some attempt to sign players for the future by Mourinho, even if they haven't all worked out. I think that team shows the benefit of signing players before their prime, and allowing them to develop into not only the most experienced players at the club, but also the players with the experience of the club.

What. A. Post.

Originally Posted by 20LEgend1999

Could look at the Real Madrid final team that row the third in the row (unchanged from the previous seasons starting 11 I think) another way, I don't think it's as simple as "old players can win stuff". Instead it shows the merits of signing players at a younger age and developing them into the first team. The continuity was key to their success IMO, a settled squad. You don't get that by plugging 30 year olds in for a couple of years, despite the short-term benefits a player like Zlatan may have brought.

That doesn't mean that signing an experienced player is automatically an issue.

These are the ages that Madrid's Champion's League final starting 11 were signed at.

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 27
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal 21
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane 18
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 19
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 19
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 26
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro 21
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos 24
AM 22 Spain Isco 21
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 21
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 24

Hopefully the balance can be found, because there has at least been some attempt to sign players for the future by Mourinho, even if they haven't all worked out. I think that team shows the benefit of signing players before their prime, and allowing them to develop into not only the most experienced players at the club, but also the players with the experience of the club.

Damn, not one player who came up through their youth system?

Sad to see folk applauding such an anti United strategy.

Originally Posted by 20LEgend1999

Could look at the Real Madrid final team that row the third in the row (unchanged from the previous seasons starting 11 I think) another way, I don't think it's as simple as "old players can win stuff". Instead it shows the merits of signing players at a younger age and developing them into the first team. The continuity was key to their success IMO, a settled squad. You don't get that by plugging 30 year olds in for a couple of years, despite the short-term benefits a player like Zlatan may have brought.

That doesn't mean that signing an experienced player is automatically an issue.

These are the ages that Madrid's Champion's League final starting 11 were signed at.

GK 1 Costa Rica Keylor Navas 27
RB 2 Spain Dani Carvajal 21
CB 5 France Raphaël Varane 18
CB 4 Spain Sergio Ramos (c) 19
LB 12 Brazil Marcelo 19
CM 10 Croatia Luka Modrić 26
CM 14 Brazil Casemiro 21
CM 8 Germany Toni Kroos 24
AM 22 Spain Isco 21
CF 9 France Karim Benzema 21
CF 7 Portugal Cristiano Ronaldo 24

Hopefully the balance can be found, because there has at least been some attempt to sign players for the future by Mourinho, even if they haven't all worked out. I think that team shows the benefit of signing players before their prime, and allowing them to develop into not only the most experienced players at the club, but also the players with the experience of the club.

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£3 you #@&%!

Originally Posted by Cream

Damn, not one player who came up through their youth system?

Sad to see folk applauding such an anti United strategy.

Had a few on the bench IIRC, who will come into the team now some of those have moved on or gotten old..