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His form has been poor for 18 months. What was the excuse last season when Valencia, Nani and Rooney were all flying... Carrick has gone from being an excellent passer of the ball, who was capable of springing us into attack and creating goals, into being an ultra cautious midfielder who looks like he is afraid of losing possession. And the shit Fletcher has outperformed him in the 2 seasons prior to this one. |
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people knock the midfield because they don't like the way it functions. this tends to ignore the fact that it largely functions the way it is supposed to within the team shape. it hasn't been as dynamic as it could have been this season, but there again - and despite the good number of goals scored by the team as a whole - the goals united score from central midfield has been a target of criticism for a long time, particular throughout carrick's 5 seasons at the club. there have been plenty of problems at the back with injury crisisisis in recent seasons, yet the defensive record remains consistently good. people should take that into account when assessing carrick's part in what has continued to be a successful united team. |
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His short comings are well documented post Rome '09, but I'll say it again, he's a player who will play at the level of the team. If you think Utd were flying last term you need a visit to the Dr's mate. |
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Which was amongst your excuses for Carrick's continued poor performances. |
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Not Nani, Valencia & Rooney. That's only half of what I was explaining. If you're not going to comprehend the other half of the argument, it's unlikely you'll acknowledge why I think Carrick's dropped off in terms of form, but could & in all likelihood would return to form with the right circumstances. Utd are simply nowhere near as good a side now, or last year, as we were from '06 - '09 when Carrick was a far more positive player. He was more positive, because he was playing with better players & had the best defence in Europe behind him virtually every week. If you think that's an excuse, as opposed to opinion, you're probably pissing in the wind. |
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Nani, Valencia and Rooney all had good seasons last year. Darren Fletcher who you labelled 'shit', was one of the best midfielders in europe last season. He was in the PFA team of the year, in case you have forgotten. This season he's been poor. We had the best defensive record in the league too. Yet, Carrick was poor. |
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I think my argument that Carrick plays better when surrounded by better players is water tight tbf.... yours that Darren Fletcher was one of the best midfielders in Europe might be the funniest thing I've read on here for a while though |
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Name me 10 players who were better in central midfield last season. This should be quite interesting. |
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I'll give you; Xavi, Iniesta, Cambiasso, Schweinsteiger, Fabregas, Busquets. Sneijder and Lampard play a different role within their sides. Obi Mikel? Van Bommel? Essien? Motta? Stankovic? They were no better at all. |
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The fact is Carrick has the goods to be a good footballer without the need to require 8 other players to make him look good. The issue is he just doesnt do it. IMO central midfield players need to be able to run the game. I dont think he can do that. He certainly doesnt have the attributes to win us a game nor to pick up the side when others arent performing. Again, these are some of the most important requirements of a central midfield player. |
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Does Fletcher run a midfield ? Does Anderson ? Did Hargreaves ? The only midfielder we have capable of running a game is Scholes. Some people seem to miss the point of a team & the no. of it's parts etc... |
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