Official Match Thread. ... Man Utd V Swansea 12 pm Bt Sports

Originally Posted by jem

it is mourinho's fault that rooney had to come back to cover the fact that we didn't have a midfield. rooney had no real function in the game. and he didn't miss an open goal. yes, he made a stupid challenge - which wasn't even a foul and the swansea player headed it cleanly to the intended recipient and they kept possession - but that one incident doesn't make our failure to win his fault. throb hates rooney. I hate mourinho.

Well given that it was clearly their best opportunity, unnecessary, stupid and their one goal in a 1-1 draw then yes actually, that one incident did indeed cost us a 1-0 win.

Open goal, sitter, blinding chance, call it whatever you want but a £#%&!ing kid could have swept that into the corner, but you know he's walking off that field thinking 152 constituted a good game.

Originally Posted by utd99

but you know he's walking off that field thinking 152 constituted a good game.

252

Originally Posted by Stickman

252

I knew something was off.

It's not Mourinho missing sitters and giving away idiotic free kicks 25 yards out.

Originally Posted by utd99

It's not Mourinho missing sitters and giving away idiotic free kicks 25 yards out.

The one that hit Martial's arse?

What about the 10 home draws? Are they all Rooney's fault as well?

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

The one that hit Martial's arse?

What about the 10 home draws? Are they all Rooney's fault as well?

we dont know, as his ankles were sore.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

The one that hit Martial's arse?

What about the 10 home draws? Are they all Rooney's fault as well?

As opposed to the whole left side of the goal that was open? Yes that one.

No, not all the bad results were Rooney's fault of course, but I don't know what one has to with the other. Is he either responsible for everything or nothing?

So, some are wanting to hound out the 4th manager in 4 years, before a season is even finished?

OK

Originally Posted by Clarkie

So, some are wanting to hound out the 4th manager in 4 years, before a season is even finished?

OK

Not at all. Clearly just making some observations. There's absolutely no middle ground on here at all is there? You either have to be hanging from Jose's arse a la sparky or if you are remotely critical of him, then it means you hate him and want him out of the club. Ridiculous.

Just find it interesting that this manager seems exempt from criticism by many despite his very obvious failings this season. Many people appear to love draws now it seems...

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Not at all. Clearly just making some observations. There's absolutely no middle ground on here at all is there? You either have to be hanging from Jose's arse a la sparky or if you are remotely critical of him, then it means you hate him and want him out of the club. Ridiculous.

Just find it interesting that this manager seems exempt from criticism by many despite his very obvious failings this season. Many people appear to love draws now it seems...

From my perspective, while I've always liked Mourinho, it's not a love thing! He should be criticised when he deserves it. However, for me, it's more of a "well, if we sack him, we have nowhere to £#%&!ing turn"

In terms of him having a pop at certain players, I've no issue with it. About time someone called out have the @#%&!s for the way they go on.

The reason (imo) that Mourinho receives almost unwavering support from his backers (myself included though Id agree he needs to do better) is his proven track record in the Premier League and Europe. It also helps his case that weve been a relative £#%&!ing mess since August 2013.

Some of the players stupidity £#%&!ing kills us though. Take that foul yesterday, did anybody on here not immediately think Sigurdsson the second Rooney bundled into his opponent. (under minimal threat) If we know it, surely the players know it

Still can't believe we drew AGAIN.

Absolutely disgraceful. 10 draws at home in the league ffs

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Still can't believe we drew AGAIN.

Absolutely disgraceful. 10 draws at home in the league ffs

This one was a truly shite performance. Plenty of this draws were down to nothing more than poor finishing after dominating games and creating a shed load of chances. This was just a shite performance, no matter the injuries we should be putting these to bed.

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

everyone blaming Rooney ffs

If United had tried to get a second like any other supposed top side then it wouldn't have been an issue. But no, we sat back and tried to protect a one-nil lead at home against 3rd from bottom. We have the manager to thank for that.

One off mistakes happen in football. Sometimes they decide games. Sometimes they don't. That's the nature of football isn't it.

The whole point is that pretty much any other United side over the past 25 years (barring the last 4 years) would have been 3 up anyway...

Anyway, looks like Shaw is still alive after coming off with injury so it can't have been that bad. Let's get back to blaming him for everything in public like all top level managers do.



Exactly. Absolutely bang on. It's all very distasteful isn't it. Especially given the shit he has served up at Old Trafford in the main. The draw specialist. A specialist in draws. Sickening stuff.

This

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

Not at all. Clearly just making some observations. There's absolutely no middle ground on here at all is there? You either have to be hanging from Jose's arse a la sparky or if you are remotely critical of him, then it means you hate him and want him out of the club. Ridiculous.

Just find it interesting that this manager seems exempt from criticism by many despite his very obvious failings this season. Many people appear to love draws now it seems...

This

Originally Posted by Clarkie

From my perspective, while I've always liked Mourinho, it's not a love thing! He should be criticised when he deserves it. However, for me, it's more of a "well, if we sack him, we have nowhere to £#%&!ing turn"

In terms of him having a pop at certain players, I've no issue with it. About time someone called out have the @#%&!s for the way they go on.

And this

Gutted still

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

We should be able to beat any of the teams left in the competition ffs but yesterday highlighted again why we can't be trusted to get the results that we should. Highly frustrating.

Ive a bad feeling we'll get done 2-0 in Spain. If that happens, were £#%&!ed.

Hypothetical seethe.

Originally Posted by irk

This



This



And this

More and more people getting tired of it now.

Originally Posted by itisme_panaflex

More and more people getting tired of it now.

Funny that hey pol...

Originally Posted by Part 36 Offer

The one that hit Martial's arse?

What about the 10 home draws? Are they all Rooney's fault as well?

Every time there's this 'it's the manager's fault / no, it's the players' fault' argument. Why does it have to be either/or? Plenty of people need singling out for that shite, Mourinho included, and he has been. You just tune into one part of the argument and go 'everyone's blaming Rooney!!1'

Martial, Blind and various others were criticised yesterday and rightly so.

Mistakes happen, of course. Its the context to it that makes this one so ludicrous.. Precarious lead, team about to go into 3rd and put pressure on city and liverpool, game nearly over, pretty comfortable, and as utd99 says, Swansea had one sole threat - free-kicks just outside the box. The players will have talked about that, no question about it.

Rooney has vast experience but he doesn't seem to use it. It was like something a young kid would do - that's what makes it so ridiculous. Watching him sometimes it's like he's new to referees at OT. He can't blame tiredness when he hardly plays. It was lazy and idiotic.

Fellaini does that and I can't imagine anyone saying 'well, mistakes happen'.

United didn't used to indulge has-beens based on past glories. That they do now is one part of the vast problem imo.

For me Jose has steadied the ship and improved us. Yep the draws are mega frustrating but 25 games unbeaten is not to be sniffed at.

I expect, and want, him to clear out the shit and dead wood in the summer and us tonne challenging next year and deserves that chance.

Think he's rumbled out the shit @#%&!s and knows who will go and battle it out for him and those who won't. He's not stupid.

I, stupidly, was pro-Moyes but this is different and we're playing better but we've got some questionable shit @#%&!ery at the club that needs £#%&!ing off.

If we've not improved next season then questions should be asked and are fully justifiable IMHO.