Stoppage time isn’t enough

Calling into question how much time refs add on for stoppages and time wasting. Conclusion: it isn’t enough.

And who is being used as an example of a team benefitting from this? Oh, it’s Manchester United. Of course it is.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...-need-accuracy

https://www.skysports.com/watch/vide...ble-added-time

Agree with him tbh.

That said, we’d probably still be playing the second leg of the Atletico home leg last season if it was that accurate.

No mention of Newcastle wasting around 30 mins at Old Trafford this season. Interesting

Originally Posted by wiganste

No mention of Newcastle wasting around 30 mins at Old Trafford this season. Interesting

This too. A 133rd minute winner would’ve been lovely though.

We probably would’ve won the Chelsea match he cites had we been given another couple of minutes tbh.

Originally Posted by dunk

Agree with him tbh.

That said, we’d probably still be playing the second leg of the Atletico home leg last season if it was that accurate.

Oh it’s absolutely correct. Nothing worse than seeing a ref tap his watch like he’s adding it all on and then they hold up the standard 3 or 4 minutes.

Just typical of course that we are used as the example.

How long do you think it takes to score a goal?," Dein told Sky Sports. "On average, people will say anywhere between 30 seconds and two minutes.

"I've got not one, but dozens of examples where a three or four-man move that ends with a goal can take just 10 seconds.

Erm, well done.

Takes less than that route one from the keeper tbf.

The world cup had it right for a while.

The people in charge the game are unbelievably incompetent and smug in their own little bubbles. Why would they want change? Not sure about corruption (perish the thought) but there’s definitely some favouritism going around.

A stop watch/clock, on display in every ground (not difficult) so we can all see. Then, refs miked up and communicating. Rugby manages it openly, for all to see and they’re not swimming in money to facilitate it.

Without going into specifics, I think we’ve all seen refs blatantly ignore shit that my missus can spot. Everywhere. The media used to harp on all the time about hoolies, but barely a whisper about this stuff. It’s worse. They’re as complicit in their silence as the fa, pl, refs club. @#%&!s.

Wouldn’t mind if it was consistently bad.

Originally Posted by armchair

The world cup had it right for a while.

Yep. It was great in the groups then they started to wind it in

Would sort out the time wasters in a heartbeat. Should have official timers in the stand so it’s not on the ref.

It would be good if something was done about it, but it won't stop gamesmanship. Slowing down the flow to disrupt a team's rhythm, feigning injuries would become even worse, kicking the ball away, walking in front of the ball at free-kicks, distracting the ref for trivial/non-existent things.

It's becoming more and more a game of @#%&!ishness and slyness.

I think it would stop it to some extent. They’ll just find new ways to disrupt.

No way Newcastle fancy playing to 110 minutes at OT, which is what it should’ve been, for instance.

The one thing is it plays into the hands of the bigger and better sides, again. It’s a necessary and useful tactic for a smaller team trying to get a result at United or City, for instance, take it away and you’ll see fewer upsets, I suppose.

Originally Posted by armchair

The world cup had it right for a while.

We wouldn't get the pools results until 7pm on a Saturday.

For that, I am out!

Not arsed about it tbh. Part of the game isn’t it. If it’s blatant and over the top then fair enough, but there’s an art to getting away with it, and it can be a leveller for teams of lower quality against the big guns.

Don’t agree at all with adding it on almost automatically as a result of the ball going out of play etc. Hated the World Cup tbh where 10 minutes plus seemed to be added on as standard, even when there was no sign of blatant and consistent time wasting.

Originally Posted by dunk

Agree with him tbh.

That said, we’d probably still be playing the second leg of the Atletico home leg last season if it was that accurate.

The one thing I enjoyed from the recent World Cup was all the added time.

Would be interesting to see the 30 minute half with a stopped clock and by interesting I mean watching all the gambling ads they could fit in during scheduled breaks in play

Originally Posted by Ethers

Not arsed about it tbh. Part of the game isn’t it. If it’s blatant and over the top then fair enough, but there’s an art to getting away with it, and it can be a leveller for teams of lower quality against the big guns.

Don’t agree at all with adding it on almost automatically as a result of the ball going out of play etc. Hated the World Cup tbh where 10 minutes plus seemed to be added on as standard, even when there was no sign of blatant and consistent time wasting.

Yeah I think there is a better way, they should crack down on the technical / tactical fouls more - the sly ones that City do relentlessly to stop anyone ever breaking on them when they lose posession in the oppositions third should result in bookings more often. The less likelihood of a foul being committed means a more open game & less time wasting as a result. Smaller sides that boot the ball out - just have £#%&!ing multi-ball & ball boys that get it back quickly. Not hard. Keeper is taking an age, book him - it's in the rules.

Weird (and pointless) attempt to quantify how long it takes to score a goal. "On average, people will say anywhere between 30 seconds and two minutes."

About time something is done about this. Often four minutes is considered a lot, but it's pitiful when you consider the amount of time wasted by players feigning injury, and by the number of substitutions.

And that's before you get to the likes of Kieran Trippier taking an ice age before every set piece.

Originally Posted by Medlock

Weird (and pointless) attempt to quantify how long it takes to score a goal. "On average, people will say anywhere between 30 seconds and two minutes."

Absolutely bizarre. Love the idea of him going round random people with a clipboard asking how long it takes to score a goal. Strange bloke.