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Our method at the moment seems to be to try and pick out 2 players against 6 defenders by swinging in crosses from 40 yards out. We also never ever see anyone run beyond the man with the ball. |
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Unfortunately, unlike Van Gaal, I think Guardiola has English football properly figured out. He has better players too of course, and he’d have watched LvG for homework. But during those years in German football - which is so different to La Liga - he developed those more basic concepts about more direct football and just filling the box. It was common to see against Dortmund who pressed so well, sometimes Boateng just lumped it to Lewandowski. They have a similar thing now. Stand off and they will play their way through and suffocate you, but they also have a goalkeeper who can put the ball on Aguero or Sane’s toe from 80 yards if you want to push up. Not to mention De Bruyne’s long range passing. Quote:
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He sold all the players we had who played with any dynamism - Rafael, Nani, Welbeck, Kagawa - and left us with either immobile (Rooney, Mata) players or players who aren't very good at football and want others to be the match winners (Fellaini, Young). He then added to that an army of signings who also fell in those groups, bar Martial, Shaw & Depay. Philosophy - great, execution - abysmal, mainly because he signed & retained mediocre players. |
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It's something we're absolutely dreadful at. In fact actually win the ball off the opposition is something we're terrible at full stop. We manage to block and suffocate on the edge of our own box but you'll never see any of our players win a tackle 50 yards up the pitch or heaven forbid, in the opposition half. Its why we struggle so badly when we go behind these days. Because our gameplan is reactive as opposed to pro-active. When your whole game revolves around letting the opponent have the ball and relying on them to get sloppy, you're kind of £#%&!ed when you then have to chase the game. |
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Van Gaal took a risk in his very high line but his team lacked bravery. The two weren't mutually exclusive. Bravery would have been to attempt ambitious passes and players moving quickly to displace the opposition's set up. His previous clubs had the calibre of players to do so, at Utd not so much. That's why the players got into a robotic like stature because not only were they trying a way of playing most of them never did before, they knew it was beyond them so rather than go suicidal, we saw the backwards and sideways passing and continous second thought football.
Van Gaal's principles were fine. The players asked to employ them weren't. Largely down to his own mistakes in the market. Nonetheless the foundations he put in place with the possession based game did have some memorable days: the best away performance at Anfield in years, dismantling City, a tremendous display with a depleted defence at Stamford Bridge vs Mourinho's Chelsea (Shaw ironically was superb). And of course the FA Cup. Had we followed him with a manager with similar values but a more flexible fist I believe we'd be better off. At least we wouldn't have had to resort to reductionist, underdog claptrap this current manager is doing. Pochettino was my choice then and I'm more certain now. He has the ideals that playing on the front foot with youth, verve and courage is the way to go win, lose or draw but he has time on his side to develop and look after players whereas LvG was at the wrong end of his career to do a complete restructure. |
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Second season we moved more into the right shape but he made the exact same mistake he made at Bayern. Had done alright in his first season and under-strengthened the squad. Left himself almost entirely reliant on Rooney, which was suicide and unfair on Wazza too. He did the same at Bayern. World Cup year and refused to entertain big name additions because he liked the young players. Was probably good for Bayern long term, but bad for him. He's not selfish enough in those situations, especially with United his last job. Quote:
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We saw the team regressing despite massive money spent. I just don't get the blind love you have for this guy. It was the worst football I have ever seen us play. We were creating £#%&! all chances, scoring £#%&! all goals & it was getting worse every week |
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Rare occasions, he's just talking %@#$&!s. No different to the rest of us |
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and then while picking up the cup news ticks through of Mou replacing him A high looool "Washed up" mou has outperformed your idol in every conceivable way bar possesion stats. These anti mou guys will be fuming when we win the league next season. Fuming. |
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