Lingard

Originally Posted by Ethers

Yeah, cos all of our squad regularly graft their %@#$&!s off tbf

Well that's another point though, isn't it?

No one would accuse Lingard of not grafting. He's making the best use of the talent he has which unfortunately falls a bit short of being a starter in a top side. Great squad player though if he'd accept that position.

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status/711597976498659329

Reckon he knows what he's on about tbf.

Originally Posted by VodkaAndCoke

No one would accuse Lingard of not grafting. He's making the best use of the talent he has which unfortunately falls a bit short of being a starter in a top side. Great squad player though if he'd accept that position.

This, basically. Successful sides always have a few players like him to call upon.

Originally Posted by dunk

https://twitter.com/rioferdy5/status/711597976498659329

Reckon he knows what he's on about tbf.

Nice one, thanks dunk.👍
Can stop thinking about it now then.

Originally Posted by utd99

Nice one, thanks dunk.👍
Can stop thinking about it now then.

Tbf, you've either not thought or not watched him thus far anyway.

Originally Posted by utd99

hmmmmm



Could your ego be any bigger?

I didn't say anything about me. I'm just going off your assessment of a young players impact within a struggling side and your assessment of what he does and doesn't do.

Oh, and I cite Rio Ferdinand's opinion and you counter with ScholesGingerSheen?

Originally Posted by dunk

I didn't say anything about me. I'm just going off your assessment of a young players impact within a struggling side and your assessment of what he does and doesn't do.

Ok, so you didn't say that I disagree with you so therefore I must obviously not have thought about it. In that case I take it back.

Lingard is not a bad player, I just don't think he's good enough, or has shown enough, for the level we should aspire to. Martial and Rashford however could very well be, so my objection is not age related clearly; and we really need to stop thinking of him as a youth player, because he's not. He's the same age as Lukaku and a year older than Kane. The point being impact, not position obviously.

Originally Posted by dunk

Oh, and I cite Rio Ferdinand's opinion and you counter with ScholesGingerSheen?

So you missed the Welbeck reference then?

Age means £#%&! all. Some are ready at 18, some come to prominence at 25 hate that argument. Just as someone can't be too young to be good enough, they aren't automatically shit forever if they aren't a star in their teens.

Originally Posted by utd99

So you missed the Welbeck reference then?

No, I ignored another paint by numbers attempt at undermining something I said by using Danny Welbeck as some sort of point scoring exercise. Just as I ignored your attempt to bring something about a big head into it the other day there will be something about a pumpkin next... The ultimate sign of the lazy.

Originally Posted by dunk

Age means £#%&! all. Some are ready at 18, some come to prominence at 25 hate that argument. Just as someone can't be too young to be good enough, they aren't automatically shit forever if they aren't a star in their teens.

Agreed, but you can only judge, and project, on what you see and I don't see enough from him to suggest he will be what we need long term. Let's put it this way, do you not think there is better out there we should be aiming for?

Originally Posted by utd99

Agreed, but you can only judge, and project, on what you see and I don't see enough from him to suggest he will be what we need long term. Let's put it this way, do you not think there is better out there we should be aiming for?

Atm, yes, but I see better out there in every position.

As I said, I don't see him as a first team regular, but there's plenty more to come from him for me, whether it will be enough, I don't know, but his impact and application during very trying times bodes well.

I just wouldn't write him off just yet, at worst he could be a very decent supporting act.

Scholes only really came through at 22/23 iirc.

I like Lingard and really hope he gets a good run. Can offer us a lot.

We need to replace him with a player who has more quality in the summer. The fact he starts so many games shows how much limited we are.

He is a decent grafter mind.

The worst player we have. Said it before he is just happy to be here. Did he touch the ball today. Useless big nose @#%&!

Originally Posted by barca99

The worst player we have. Said it before he is just happy to be here. Did he touch the ball today. Useless big nose c***

Give the WUM a rest , and just enjoy the win for today atleast.

Can't fault the boy's work rate but he's really short on quality at times.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Can't fault the boy's work rate but he's really short on quality at times.

Pros: running about. Cons: football.

Originally Posted by barca99

Did he touch the ball today.

did you watch the game today?

Originally Posted by utd99

Agreed, but you can only judge, and project, on what you see and I don't see enough from him to suggest he will be what we need long term. Let's put it this way, do you not think there is better out there we should be aiming for?

we should be aiming to build a team who all play for each other and the shirt. players like lingard (and welbeck) are always gonna come worse off in people's football manager wish lists, but their managers usually have a bit more insight...

lingard could be upgraded pretty easily no doubt, but he is exactly the type we need in the squad long term...

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

we should be aiming to build a team who all play for each other and the shirt. players like lingard (and welbeck) are always gonna come worse off in people's football manager wish lists, but their managers usually have a bit more insight...

lingard could be upgraded pretty easily no doubt, but he is exactly the type we need in the squad long term...

So you also agree that he is at best a squad player?

I just hope he sees sense and realises the same otherwise he'll end up at Watford and see out his career playing in front of Elton John's adopted kids, which would be a shame.