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They were there on merit and deservedly so. I suppose he just got lucky twice with Lyons then? |
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99/00 Utd 91 Liv 67 00/01 Utd 80 Liv 69 01/02 Utd 77 Liv 80 02/03 Utd 83 Liv 64 03/04 Utd 75 Liv 60 So once they reached 80 points when we got 77. Look at all those points in the 60's. After several years in the job, in his last season he got 60 points. Hardly the figures of a good manager. They would never have won the league under Houllier. Liverpool got 63 points last season so they performed better in Rafa's last season than in Houllier's last season. Is Benitez a good manager? He had a decent record at Valencia. http://www.premierleague.com/page/Statistics |
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09/10 Chelsea 86 United 85 08/09 United 90 Liverpool 86 Chelsea 83 07/08 United 87 Chelsea 85 06/07 United 89 Chelsea 83 05/06 Chelsea 91 United 83 04/05 Chelsea 95 Arsenal 83 United 77 Quite clearly United only won the league 3 times on the bounce from 07-09 because Chelsea were so poor. A repeat of either of these years that Chelsea won would have meant United didn't have a prayer. You can only do what's infront of you, and the fact is Houllier is a good manager. I'm not saying he's the best or anything or will work wonders, but I said he's 'quite a good manager'. You said he's not and didn't give anything to back your argument up. Now you have given something, it doesn't prove he's a bad manager. In fact you seem to be backing my argument - that 'he's quite a good manager' - up with these stats. |
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I think a bit much was made of them finishing above us that year. They weren't seriously in the title race, it was pretty much a shoot-out between us and Arse... once Arse had it won with a couple of games left we lost all the dead rubbers and the vermin won all theirs.
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Houllier is not as good as O'Neill and I didn't think he was as good as some make out. He's a good solid manager whose team probably get a few points more each year than they would with someone shit. He'd never have made them title contenders and neither would Houllier at Liverpool or Benitez. Worth remembering that Villa with Atkinson as manager nearly won the league. |
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Liverpool had started going backwards before he left, but probably harsh to judge his entire career on that. |
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