Willi-ON

Willian - 44 goals in 236 games for Chelsea.

Martial - 36 goals in 136 games for Utd.

Seven year age gap. Willian would be a good addition but no swap deal.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

So it's better to waste money on players who are shite and will never be any good than players who may be good for a couple of years.

Cool.

How is spending money on players that were the core of our most successful period (3 titles + CL) a waste of money?

Originally Posted by Buck

Willian - 44 goals in 236 games for Chelsea.

Martial - 36 goals in 136 games for Utd.

Seven year age gap. Willian would be a good addition but no swap deal.

He's a strange one Willian because he's been a lot more productive under Conte in terms of goals and assists yet he's been used a lot less. I never put it past the slightly more paranoid managers to take a dislike to a player strongly associated with the previous regime.

Would they give us another player though given that they failed to replace Matic?

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

How is spending money on players that were the core of our most successful period (3 titles + CL) a waste of money?

I’m talking post Ronaldo mate.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

I’m talking post Ronaldo mate.

Yes, and I agree with you that our policy was diabolical post
selling Ronaldo.

But when we trying to catch other teams up (03-06), Fergie bought younger players or players about to come into their prime, and it paid dividends as we became the best side in Europe.

That's what we should try to replicate.

Originally Posted by Buck

Willian - 44 goals in 236 games for Chelsea.

Martial - 36 goals in 136 games for Utd.

Seven year age gap. Willian would be a good addition but no swap deal.

martial wants to leave and has a year left on his contract. We dont have a choice to sell the shit @#%&!. Swapping for somebody the manager likes and wants to come is a good deal.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

He's a strange one Willian because he's been a lot more productive under Conte in terms of goals and assists yet he's been used a lot less. I never put it past the slightly more paranoid managers to take a dislike to a player strongly associated with the previous regime.

Would they give us another player though given that they failed to replace Matic?

Free kick specialist isn't he. Seem to remember at the backend of Mourinho's time at Chelsea their only hope of scoring was to win free kicks.

Why are we still pining for a player who walked away not in his prime 9 years ago ffs he’s gone get over it

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Yeah thank god fergie didn't sign a load of shit post Ronaldo and hide behind the no value sign whilst City were stockpiling the quality players that are still the spine of their success today.

£#%&!ing Pogba. From nominal to ninety mill

Will probably end up being a slightly less expensive Sanchez that even City don’t want. Great.

Originally Posted by Ethers

Will probably end up being a slightly less expensive that even City don’t want. Great.

City not wanting a player isn't generally a marker for if they're good or not

Originally Posted by Jethro

City not wanting a player isn't generally a marker for if they're good or not

Ok.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Like Sanchez.

Tbh I like the Alderweireld and Sandro links. This one feels a bit like safety as the priority.

We’ll be linked with 200 players this summer. Like every summer.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

Yes, and I agree with you that our policy was diabolical post
selling Ronaldo.

But when we trying to catch other teams up (03-06), Fergie bought younger players or players about to come into their prime, and it paid dividends as we became the best side in Europe.

That's what we should try to replicate.

Ronaldo, Rooney, Ferdinand, evra, carrick, veron, van nistlerooy were all pretty obvious, sought after signings. Vidic was the only one I wasn’t much aware of. There’s no equivalent today. And we tend to forget the shit that didn’t work like kleberson, miller and £#%&! knows who else.

Originally Posted by Ranier Wolfcastle

I'm glad Fergie had the same mentality when he was trying to catch up Chelsea & Arsenal.

Signing 30 year olds like Rooney, Evra, Vidic, Saha, Carrick, Tevez etc.

.......and van Persie??

(even if he wasn't actually quite 30)

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

.......and van Persie??

(even if he wasn't actually quite 30)

Sheringam was a real one for the future.

Blanc.

Fergie signing the odd experienced head is a bit different to Jose making his last 4 signings players around the 30 year age bracket

Originally Posted by red in cumbria

.......and van Persie??

(even if he wasn't actually quite 30)

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Sheringam was a real one for the future.

Originally Posted by AK14

Blanc.

Three signings spread across about 15 years? Hardly owning the discussion tbf.

Alderweireld, Matic, Sanchez and Willian all turn 30 next season. It's not typical Fergie-esque building.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

We’ll be linked with 200 players this summer. Like every summer.



Ronaldo, Rooney, Ferdinand, evra, carrick, veron, van nistlerooy were all pretty obvious, sought after signings. Vidic was the only one I wasn’t much aware of. There’s no equivalent today. And we tend to forget the shit that didn’t work like kleberson, miller and £#%&! knows who else.

Evra, Carrick and Ronaldo obvious?

Clown

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Three signings spread across about 15 years? Hardly owning the discussion tbf.

Alderweireld, Matic, Sanchez and Willian all turn 30 next season. It's not typical Fergie-esque building.

Aye. He started off buying the likes of viv Anderson, mal donaghy, Ralph milne, Steve Bruce. Almost like he just bought what he considered were good enough players needed at the time. Or maybe experienced, solid pros that would be a good influence on an unruly, undisciplined dressing room. He certainly didn’t build his short/medium term aspirations around youth. No manager does because you have to survive long enough and gain the power to do that.

I recall the slagging off he got for dropping all the Fergie fledglings once the experienced pros came through their injuries. Didn’t give a shit about how excited the fans had become by the young players. Barely saw any of them ever again. Straight back to dull, supposedly reliable football at the first opportunity. I’m sure you’d have been there slagging him off for not giving the youth the chance they deserved and betraying United’s tradition. He’d never get united.

Originally Posted by sa7

Evra, Carrick and Ronaldo obvious?

Clown

Yeah. What’s the mystery?

Evra was hardly unknown as the Monaco left back. Was clearly class for them. Ronaldo, one of the highest rated and most sought after young players in Europe. Christ, even magazines like world soccer were lauding him in articles. I was desperate for United to sign him, and it would have been hugely incompetent If we hadn’t, given our links to sporting at the time. Carrick, a top young english midfielder. Maybe to you they were total unknowns, but it would have been worrying if a club like united hadn’t had them as targets. You’re just showing your own apparent cluelessness.