OFFICIAL: United v Besiktas thread

Originally Posted by marlo

is it compulsory to play the pointless '1-2's at united?

phelan and rene school of football.

Don't normally agree with marlo, but we do tend to overplay these days, and our build up play can be ponderous at times..

thought that wellbeck got caught back on his heels a lot, doesn't seem to anticipate things as well as he should, macheda for me was the better of the front two, obertan was good at times but needs to improve his crossing, less said about gibson the better. I'd agree with various criticism of anderson, he looked totally uninterested, very sloppy in fact, regardless of the lack of importance of the game it was rather disappointing performance.

wellbeck and obertan can come out of that game with their hands held high. solid performances by them.

gibson as ive said before won't be at ot next season.

did michael owen actually come on?

macheda just isn't there yet.

rafael needs coaching and is too rash and immature in his tackling.

bad day at the office for big andy but anyone would struggle to do well playing with liam miller mk II.

townsend, what a @#%&!.

On evras penalty shout, 'the french are at it again'

£#%&! off back to your tactics truck you fake paddy @#%&!!!!

Originally Posted by El Chalten

anderson is going backwards. keeps this up and he'll be sold with nani.

nft.

joking aside if anderson doesn't improve his overall game his time at united will be much shorter than it should be.

I didn't watch the second half, watched Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward I again.


Wanted some entertainment.£#%&!ing hell, was it that dab throughout? Anderson get any better?

And are we just going to go through because of a better head to head with CSKA ?

Originally Posted by redmike

Certainly was, too many changes, this was Cl not a league cup game ffs showed a complete lack of respect for the turks and we got what we deserved.

Needed his strongest squad for this, and then maybe play this team against wolfsburg, but no, we always make life hard for us dont we.

I dont see the point in starting a team that raw and disjointed all together. Surely it would be more beneficial for Macheda to play with Rooney/Owen and the same goes for Wellbeck. Gibson would do better in with the first choice midfield, Anderson - same. I dont think we learn a thing from these matches.

Off to Germany now with all the big guns playing pre Aston Villa That said, Pompey are looking good eh

Originally Posted by John Blazini

townsend, what a @#%&!.

On evras penalty shout, 'the french are at it again'

£#%&! off back to your tactics truck you fake paddy @#%&!!!!

big clear out in the summer.

nft.

Originally Posted by rebelcountyred

thought that wellbeck got caught back on his heels a lot, doesn't seem to anticipate things as well as he should, macheda for me was the better of the front two, obertan was good at times but needs to improve his crossing, less said about gibson the better. I'd agree with various criticism of anderson, he looked totally uninterested, very sloppy in fact, regardless of the lack of importance of the game it was rather disappointing performance.

Originally Posted by magic_cantona

I didn't watch the second half, watched Arturo Gatti vs Micky Ward I again.


Wanted some entertainment.£#%&!ing hell, was it that dab throughout? Anderson get any better?

And are we just going to go through because of a better head to head with CSKA ?

You £#%&!ing weapon.

Originally Posted by John Blazini

townsend, what a @#%&!.

On evras penalty shout, 'the french are at it again'

£#%&! off back to your tactics truck you fake paddy @#%&!!!!

Originally Posted by redmike

Certainly was, too many changes, this was Cl not a league cup game ffs showed a complete lack of respect for the turks and we got what we deserved.

Can't argue with that.
I thought at least Scholes, Owen & Evra would have started tonight.

We've got a League Cup tie next week. You play the 'Kids' then FFS.

Thought we were poor second half. Very dissapointing.
Very nervy & casual in the final third...either trying to be too clever or making a mess of every long range effort.
Macheda should stop giving the 'pout' to the TV camera's during the Champions League theme & concentrate more on getting in the £#%&!ing 6-yard box on the end of things.

Originally Posted by Terry Silver

That free-kick just before he was subbed was the straw that broke the camels back, as Fergie's reaction showed. No sooner had he placed the ball nicely into the keepers hands then Carrick was getting his tracksuit top off.

And then Carrick proceeded to make that look good with a pitiful scuff into the wall from an identical position.

Originally Posted by marlo

wellbeck and obertan can come out of that game with their hands held high. solid performances by them.

gibson as ive said before won't be at ot next season.

did michael owen actually come on?

macheda just isn't there yet.

rafael needs coaching and is too rash and immature in his tackling.

bad day at the office for big andy but anyone would struggle to do well playing with liam miller mk II.

can't argue with any of that.

the most disappointing thing is the total lack of any sort of cohesion between the players in these games. The passing at times was so pedestrian and totally lacking in imagination. Our young centre forwards seem to be better at recieving the ball 40 yards from goal and laying it off sideways than getting in good goal scoring positions, which is puzzling.

Obviously the fact that besiktas were by that time playing with a back 5 with 3 midfielders parked infront of them didn't help. But make no mistakes, they are £#%&!ing awful. It's no coincidence they've only scored 2 goals in the whole competition. If we'd had anything resembling our first team out we'd have ruined them. Too many youngsters in the team today.

In the carling cup you can field a team like that, but not at this level because even the worst teams are savvy enough to just run the game down.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

And then Carrick proceeded to make that look good with a pitiful scuff into the wall from an identical position.

Yep - he basically did a Darren Gibson impression when he came on.

Low frequency, low quality passing.

High frequency, low quality shooting.

And barely a decent tackle between them.:bi::bi:

As with the CSKA game G Nev spent the last 20 minutes in the right wing position, unmarked in acres of space. The difference was that no £#%&!er lifted their head and found him with a pass. Instead the ball kept coming wide left for Macheda/Welbeck to make a pigs-ear of it.

Has SAF justified his laughable team selection yet??

Originally Posted by John Blazini

townsend, what a @#%&!.

On evras penalty shout, 'the french are at it again'

£#%&! off back to your tactics truck you fake paddy @#%&!!!!

Him & Southgate were a £#%&!ing joke.
Talk about delivering the ABU cliche's on a plate.

Southgate on the Evra 'Penalty' - "makes a change for them not to get one" HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA!!! You funny £#%&!er!!! What originality & wit!
Funnily enough, we get hardly any penalties...anywhere. But why let facts get in the way aye?
I wonger if Steeeeeevie Geeeeeee would have been awarded that???? Hmmm


It really was amusing last week hearing Townsened & Cascarino on TalkSport talking about 'Fair Play' & what a disgrace France are...when they pretended to be another Nationality in order to play International Football.