With today's comments from Rooney

Originally Posted by koppas

Neither did Ronaldo.

we all know what ronaldo will do sooner or later and if he wants to he can £#%&! off.

Originally Posted by poppy

Yes, there's Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho and then... errr... Ryan Giggs.

Pele, Maradona, Zindane and Ronaldoinho ey? Them pages must have fallen out of my United Opus

That's another cliche trotted out regarding Giggs. We'll all only realise how good he was once he's gone.

Robson, Eric, Georgie, Law, Charlton, Keane, Scholes, Buchan. We all knew just how good they were whilst still wearing the shirt. You tend to spot these things with great players.

Ryan Giggs is a United legend for his outstanding service to the club. He's won far more than I'd ever have imagined when I first saw him as a kid. He didn't quite turn out to be the player I thought he'd be though. That's just an honest opinion.

Originally Posted by poppy

That's another cliche trotted out regarding Giggs. We'll all only realise how good he was once he's gone.

Robson, Eric, Georgie, Law, Charlton, Keane, Scholes, Buchan. We all knew just how good they were whilst still wearing the shirt. You tend to spot these things with great players.

Ryan Giggs is a United legend for his outstanding service to the club. He's won far more than I'd ever have imagined when I first saw him as a kid. He didn't quite turn out to be the player I thought he'd be though. That's just an honest opinion.

So who is the most decorated player ever pull on the shirt?

Originally Posted by poppy

That's another cliche trotted out regarding Giggs. We'll all only realise how good he was once he's gone.

Robson, Eric, Georgie, Law, Charlton, Keane, Scholes, Buchan. We all knew just how good they were whilst still wearing the shirt. You tend to spot these things with great players.

Ryan Giggs is a United legend for his outstanding service to the club. He's won far more than I'd ever have imagined when I first saw him as a kid. He didn't quite turn out to be the player I thought he'd be though. That's just an honest opinion.

WE all know how good Giggs is while he is playing. The £#%&!wits won't realise how good he is until he is gone. The time period Giggs has been playing is a lot longer than the majority of the players you have mentioned, most weren't taken for granted in the same way.

Scholes is in much the same boat.

And you will see I added the rider, 'to name but 4', to my original comment. However, when the dust settles on his career, his name will lie alongside Best, Law and Charlton in our history. That is a fact.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Rooney will be our most important player once Scholes has retired, I reckon he will play in midfield in years to come (same as Scholes started his career up front).

No chance. Rooney (to me at least) is a very instinctive player. When he plays a cleaver through ball, spots a pass, or shoots first time, I've always felt that there isn't much "thinking" involved. He just does it. The winner against Milan is the perfect example. He'd be wasted in midfield imo, especially when you consider that he can play both the number 9 or 10 role at a very high level.

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

Ronaldo is a great player capable of lighting up any game and has dragged us out of the shit numerous times over the last couple of years, but I wouldn't swap him for Rooney.

No one's asking you too. You may have noticed that they both play for us!

It seems on FT you can only praise one our brilliant young players at the expense of another. It's rather sad, but all to predictable

Originally Posted by 1MUFC

we all know what ronaldo will do sooner or later and if he wants to he can £#%&! off.

This is what makes me laugh - why shouldn't he join Real Madrid in the future for £#%&!s sake? He is 22 now and has been at United for almost five years. He has won the FA Cup, won the Carling Cup, won the League and will win the CL eventually. He isn't a United fan and isn't from Manchester. Why the £#%&! shouldn't he go and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world? He is from Portugal so will be nearer home and also has the climate that he was used to living in Portugal. If he wins us the Champions League a couple of time and then £#%&!s off, fair play to him.

He needs to show some loyalty as we gave him the platform to be where he is today but that doesn't mean to say that he has to stay with us for his whole career. Some people really need to look at the wider picture and take off the red tinted specs.

NFT

Originally Posted by poppy

Yes, there's Pele, Maradona, Zidane, Ronaldinho and then... errr... Ryan Giggs.

He's been a good player but come on now, let's not get silly. He's not in the Paul Scholes class. Never has been never will be.

Interestingly, since his debut nearly 18 years ago, Giggs managed 100 league goals. 22 year old Ronaldo has already managed 48 and is a better player at 22 than Giggs has ever been.

Unfortunately, when a Giggs tribute thread starts, we have the same 6 or 7 usual youtube clips trotted out. A truly great player would have had far more than that for the number of games he's played.

Good. Very good even. Certainly not a great.

an intelligent, subtle and wonderfully artistic player. no surprise you don't rate him, though i'm sure you still remember the one he got against you in the semi in the treble season.

Originally Posted by dodger

So who is the most decorated player ever pull on the shirt?

So you're saying Phil Neville was a better player than George Best?

I'm talking about football ability not medals in the bank.

Originally Posted by koppas

This is what makes me laugh - why shouldn't he join Real Madrid in the future for £#%&!s sake? He is 22 now and has been at United for almost five years. He has won the FA Cup, won the Carling Cup, won the League and will win the CL eventually. He isn't a United fan and isn't from Manchester. Why the £#%&! shouldn't he go and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world? He is from Portugal so will be nearer home and also has the climate that he was used to living in Portugal. If he wins us the Champions League a couple of time and then £#%&!s off, fair play to him.

He needs to show some loyalty as we gave him the platform to be where he is today but that doesn't mean to say that he has to stay with us for his whole career. Some people really need to look at the wider picture and take off the red tinted specs.

NFT

Probably the best thing you've ever posted on here

I doubt if Rooney will ever be mentioned in the same breath as Best, Charlton, Cantona etc..(although of course you never know, he's only 22 after all)
In the 25+ years I've been watching United I can honestly say Wayne Rooney is as good as anything I've seen.
He ticks all the boxes for me.

It's great to know that he wants to spend his whole career at the Club.

Originally Posted by borsuk

a, intelligent, subtle and wonderfully artistic player. no surprise you don't rate him, though i'm sure you still remember the one he got against you in the semi.

Ahh that game again. One of those 6 or 7 youtube moments.

Yes I remember that game. The one he started on the bench because of a period of woeful form. The game he kept givig the ball away for the entire time he was on the pitch until he went on to score a great goal against an exhausted Arsenal team in extra-time.

Originally Posted by borsuk

an intelligent, subtle and wonderfully artistic player. no surprise you don't rate him, though i'm sure you still remember the one he got against you in the semi in the treble season.

He probably thinks Pires is a better player than him.
I remember why I had him on ignore now.

Ryan Giggs is a United great. It is undebateable.

Originally Posted by The Watcher

Probably the best thing you've ever posted on here

Thanks. As I read it back I thought to myself: "That sounds £#%&!ing good!"

Just irritates me the way that people think that players owe United their whole careers.

Originally Posted by koppas

This is what makes me laugh - why shouldn't he join Real Madrid in the future for £#%&!s sake? He is 22 now and has been at United for almost five years. He has won the FA Cup, won the Carling Cup, won the League and will win the CL eventually. He isn't a United fan and isn't from Manchester. Why the £#%&! shouldn't he go and play for one of the biggest clubs in the world? He is from Portugal so will be nearer home and also has the climate that he was used to living in Portugal. If he wins us the Champions League a couple of time and then £#%&!s off, fair play to him.

He needs to show some loyalty as we gave him the platform to be where he is today but that doesn't mean to say that he has to stay with us for his whole career. Some people really need to look at the wider picture and take off the red tinted specs.

NFT

£#%&!ing hell that's good koppas.

A very hard to take truth.

Originally Posted by poppy

So you're saying Phil Neville was a better player than George Best?

I'm talking about football ability not medals in the bank.

I think it says something if you play for this club and have more medals than anybody who ever played here. If you think that counts for nothing then more fool you.

Originally Posted by Gazw649

Ryan Giggs is a United great. It is undebateable.

Your grammar, on the other hand, is.

Originally Posted by Rhodzy

He probably thinks Pires is a better player than him.
I remember why I had him on ignore now.

Until his injury, Pires was undoubtably the better player. A goal every 3 games, and the highest assists in the Premier League. Probably the reason he won footballer of the year. But apart from all the goals and all the assists, Giggs was better.

Originally Posted by poppy

Ahh that game again. One of those 6 or 7 youtube moments.

Yes I remember that game. The one he started on the bench because of a period of woeful form. The game he kept givig the ball away for the entire time he was on the pitch until he went on to score a great goal against an exhausted Arsenal team in extra-time.

You've finally let the mask slip there mate.
Let the old 'Gooner pretending to be a United Fan' cat out of the bag.

Arsenal were exhausted???....I seem to remember it was us that were down to ten men... us that had bossed the game until Bergkamp's deflected fluke-goal...us that had WON the original tie after Keane's strike was wrongly ruled out for offside.

One of the greatest nights in Uniteds history & you do your best to discredit it!!!

As I said, I think you've accidentally shown your true colours there.