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Unread 06-01-2011, 11:57 AM
Zorg
 
Default Re: Barca vs Levante and Arsenal vs City

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I know you're game.
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 12:31 PM
jem
 
Default Re: Barca vs Levante and Arsenal vs City

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How are they supposed to develop when Johan Foreigner is given preference?
Yes o.k technically they make us look like 3 legged ditch pigs but, as was seen with Milners and Richards 'close control' last night in comparison
to the 'dagos'. But that needs to be rectified.
They're not racially superiour ffs.
they are culturally superior. don't blame clubs, blame new labour. blame britain's got talent.

city are giving it a go your way. hart, richards, lescott, swp, milner, barry, johnson. but they are anti-football. not quite the new nevilles g&p, scholes, giggs, keane, beckham, butt, cole and sheringham, but still....

jack wilshere is the new danny murphy. add gibbs, ramsay, walcott.

all that lot need is a diversity exercise dvd and england will win the cup in 2014.
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:11 PM
Coracao
 
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england are not shit because there aren't enough english players at top teams. england are shit because the players are shit. which, coincidentally, is why they're not at top teams. top teams are happy enough to have top british players when they can find them. even arsenal.

obviously johnny dago is a lot cheaper than algernon smythe-agentspuppet. but stil.....
A large part of the blame has to go to the top teams though.

Barcelona don't have a lot of top Spanish players because they've bought them. They have them because they have produced them.
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:20 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
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A large part of the blame has to go to the top teams though.

Barcelona don't have a lot of top Spanish players because they've bought them. They have them because they have produced them.
because they buy all the quality talent at a young age and ditch the rest...

A little bit like what we are doing at the moment
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:32 PM
Coracao
 
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because they buy all the quality talent at a young age and ditch the rest...

A little bit like what we are doing at the moment
Xavi has been there since he was 11.
Victor Valdes since he was 13.
Pique since he was 10 (left for a few years obviously)
Iniesta since he was 12.

Not sure that is really comparable with us nicking people at the age of 17.
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:34 PM
andyroo
 
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Levante might have eleven Spanish players, but they're all shit.

And they also have that big spanner Caceido who used to play for citeh. Where's he from? Ecuador I think?
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Harri Jaffa
 
Default Re: Barca vs Levante and Arsenal vs City

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Xavi has been there since he was 11.
Victor Valdes since he was 13.
Pique since he was 10 (left for a few years obviously)
Iniesta since he was 12.

Not sure that is really comparable with us nicking people at the age of 17.
We do get players younger than 17, pretty sure Petrucci and Pobga were younger (could be wrong)

It was more the process of acquiring a lot of cheap young talent and filtering out the worst, which is pretty common among top clubs but we have been at the forefront in the UK
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 02:48 PM
Coracao
 
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We do get players younger than 17, pretty sure Petrucci and Pobga were younger (could be wrong)

It was more the process of acquiring a lot of cheap young talent and filtering out the worst, which is pretty common among top clubs but we have been at the forefront in the UK
I'm not sure you can really level the same accusation at Barcelona with their youth development.

If anything, they are at times a victim of the practice of clubs like United robbing their talent. See Pique, Fabregas & others.

They spend more on their youth set up than anyone else. Unsurprisingly, it yields the best results. There was a ridiculously talented Spanish side in this years European under 19 championships (they ended up losing in the final, but took the piss throughout the tournament). Of an 18 man squad, 7 of them were from Barcelona and they had been their since they were young kids. The top scorer in the tournament was Pacheco, who Liverpool 'nicked' from the Barcelona system.
 
Unread 06-01-2011, 03:23 PM
naes_sean
 
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