New contract for the special one, the one and only one!

Originally Posted by ScholesGingerSheen

£#%&!ing hell 2 decent results against teams that are over 20 points behind us and all of a sudden team Jose are walking round with permanent semi's and others are squirming backwards on to the bandwagon.

7-10 players who aren't up to the standards of Mark Albrighton, Danny Drinkwater, Christian Fuchs and Wes Morgan? They won a title and reached the CL Quarters.

The idea our squad is woefully short is absolute balls and is being used to excuse performance which is just adequate. If we're not there or thereabouts next season him and his new contract can sling it.

We've gone from Jose will have us back contending immediately to the five year plan., we'll be signing last pieces of the jigsaw before you know it.

We'd be top in nearly every other season or very close to being, with 50 points after 23 games.

Bit better than at this stage a couple years ago aswell...

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...after-23-games

Originally Posted by ScholesGingerSheen

£#%&!ing hell 2 decent results against teams that are over 20 points behind us and all of a sudden team Jose are walking round with permanent semi's and others are squirming backwards on to the bandwagon.

7-10 players who aren't up to the standards of Mark Albrighton, Danny Drinkwater, Christian Fuchs and Wes Morgan? They won a title and reached the CL Quarters.

The idea our squad is woefully short is absolute balls and is being used to excuse performance which is just adequate. If we're not there or thereabouts next season him and his new contract can sling it.

We've gone from Jose will have us back contending immediately to the five year plan., we'll be signing last pieces of the jigsaw before you know it.

Truth bomb

Originally Posted by dragflick

We'd be top in nearly every other season or very close to being, with 50 points after 23 games.

Bit better than at this stage a couple years ago aswell...

http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...after-23-games

Didn’t realise Louis’ second season saw us have fewer points than the Moyes season at this stage.

Wow. What a damning stat.

I remember certain posters hoping LvG would be kept on, after a terrible league, CL and EL campaign and an FA cup win...Some would say done even worse in the league than Moyes Certainly in the Champion's League anyway...


Bit strange how a more successful manager is getting it in the neck from those posters but, is what it is..

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Fair point, although I was more just underlining that new contracts mean nothing really. It’s hard to say re United being trigger happy. Both times we have had a manager finding themselves under widespread pressure, they have removed them at the end of the season.

Yeah, every club is trigger happy with failing managers, but Chelsea and Madrid sack successful ones who have a blip.

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Didn’t you say Mourinho was finished a few weeks ago?

Anyway, if Mou takes his spending past £400m and goes into a third season and fails to challenge, he will come under major pressure.

I agree that United have needed to build pretty much a new squad since Fergie left. But a challenge is hardly asking too much.

We’d be challenging now if city weren’t having a freak season.

Originally Posted by Clarkie

Some would say done even worse in the league than Moyes

Idiots? Utter mouth breathing imbeciles who can't grasp the concept of one season having better performing clubs than another? Absolute slow learners?

Since when is missing out on 4th by goal difference worse than coming 7th?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Yeah, every club is trigger happy with failing managers, but Chelsea and Madrid sack successful ones who have a blip.



We’d be challenging now if city weren’t having a freak season.

Only got ourselves to blame for that imo. Should have beat the dippers, never should have been beat by City or Huddlesfield. If you take them three games in to consideration we’re in a challenging position.

Originally Posted by believe

Only got ourselves to blame for that imo. Should have beat the dippers, never should have been beat by City or Huddlesfield. If you take them three games in to consideration we’re in a challenging position.

Stoke away

Originally Posted by believe

Only got ourselves to blame for that imo. Should have beat the dippers, never should have been beat by City or Huddlesfield. If you take them three games in to consideration we’re in a challenging position.

In which case every team only has themselves to blame. United drop points over a season. Has it ever been any different? Wonder how many times over the last 25 years we wouldn’t be 10 points or more behind city.

If a team wins 18 on the trot, only loses once and barely draws any games either, no team will be challenging them. To criticise united for not doing so is ridiculous. In past seasons we’d be 30 points behind by now. Instead, we’re above Tottenham, Chelsea, Liverpool, arsenal etc but not good enough because we’re not challenging a team that’s barely dropped any points.

Moyes did better in Europe than Van Gaal

Originally Posted by believe

Only got ourselves to blame for that imo. Should have beat the dippers, never should have been beat by City or Huddlesfield. If you take them three games in to consideration we’re in a challenging position.

Just win the games over Christmas and it's a six point gap and a two-horse race. Very annoying.

But yeah, Huddersfield ffs.

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

In which case every team only has themselves to blame. United drop points over a season. Has it ever been any different? Wonder how many times over the last 25 years we wouldn’t be 10 points or more behind city.

If a team wins 18 on the trot, only loses once and barely draws any games either, no team will be challenging them. To criticise united for not doing so is ridiculous. In past seasons we’d be 30 points behind by now. Instead, we’re above Tottenham, Chelsea, Liverpool, arsenal etc but not good enough because we’re not challenging a team that’s barely dropped any points.

Truth bomb.........

Originally Posted by Lazlo Panaflex

Idiots? Utter mouth breathing imbeciles who can't grasp the concept of one season having better performing clubs than another? Absolute slow learners?

Since when is missing out on 4th by goal difference worse than coming 7th?

Hey, I'm just saying some could paint it like that.
Personally, I'd never think that. I'd have anyone over Moyes. But, yano....It's not inconceivable some would believe it...


Some people believe getting embarrassed in the CL and EL, the league and winning an FA cup is far better than a League Cup, the EL, getting back into the CL, finishing 6th and the progress we've made this season...


Could argue they're imbeciles, idiots, slow learners, absolute piss the sheets know nowts but, who are we to say it?

Originally Posted by Jammy Dodger

Yeah, every club is trigger happy with failing managers, but Chelsea and Madrid sack successful ones who have a blip.



We’d be challenging now if city weren’t having a freak season.

Are you disagreeing with me that we don’t need to challenge next year?

Our current points average would see us finish six points behind Chelsea last season btw.

We’d have challenged then too, if another pesky side hadn’t decided to be really good and finished higher. Or five of them in that case

I would like to think that the majority of the criticism this season has not been over the points total or position in the table. The end result(s) have been acceptable, the performances have been more concerning.

It is like Lukaku, 17 goals, a fine return by any standard for this stage of the season, but watching closely you see the flaws in his game. The influence of City on the argument is interesting, I feel their dominance has become a shield for the under achievement of others, most notably Utd and Chelsea. If City were only 6 points clear and Utd had played exactly the same season would the concerns over our performances be any less valid? Should not use the performance of others as a barometer for what is acceptable at Utd. Half the forum correctly wanted LVG sacked even during that brief spell when he was top of the league.

I think Utd have the second best squad in the league, clearly so if we add Sanchez and hope that this upturn in performances continues.

Originally Posted by Tiberian

I would like to think that the majority of the criticism this season has not been over the points total or position in the table. The end result(s) have been acceptable, the performances have been more concerning.

Agree with all of that. You do need to consider that Lukaku is still settling in and deserves more time to do so. It's a big step up playing every week for a club like United. And also worth mentioning that the players that we rely upon for a lot of our spark (Rashford, Martial, Lingard, Pogba) have all been inconsistent, hence the patchy form in an attacking sense. They'll all continue to improve though. Sanchez would hopefully add some consistency in terms of performance levels

Originally Posted by Tiberian

I would like to think that the majority of the criticism this season has not been over the points total or position in the table. The end result(s) have been acceptable, the performances have been more concerning.

It is like Lukaku, 17 goals, a fine return by any standard for this stage of the season, but watching closely you see the flaws in his game. The influence of City on the argument is interesting, I feel their dominance has become a shield for the under achievement of others, most notably Utd and Chelsea. If City were only 6 points clear and Utd had played exactly the same season would the concerns over our performances be any less valid? Should not use the performance of others as a barometer for what is acceptable at Utd. Half the forum correctly wanted LVG sacked even during that brief spell when he was top of the league.

I think Utd have the second best squad in the league, clearly so if we add Sanchez and hope that this upturn in performances continues.

It feels like there’s no mid-table in the league this year. I suppose the decline of Everton, Southampton, Stoke, West Ham etc is responsible. But City, as good as they are and as well drilled as they are, merely serve to underline how easy games against 14 of these teams should be most weeks.

Comparing points to other seasons is fair enough but really it ignores the that each season is different and should be judged within its own context. United won the treble in 1999 with a points total that would only just have scraped 3rd last season.

Originally Posted by 20 times

Moyes did better in Europe than Van Gaal

He would have struggled to do much worse to be fair.

Good thing the Big Man has the record of the highest win rate of any manager in the CL to fall back on

Shame to see the resentment despite him having delivered the biggest trophy and highest league position since Fergie. Modern fans

Originally Posted by S/Side.Red

Good thing the Big Man has the record of the highest win rate of any manager in the CL to fall back on

Shame to see the resentment despite him having delivered the biggest trophy and highest league position since Fergie. Modern fans

Think it's born out posters' love of the great man tbh. Need to restore the balance