Wenger = top mentalist

Originally Posted by dodger

Was that when you snatched a last minute equaliser or got dicked 4-0?

nope it was win they outplayed us at ot last season and we won by a 'soft penalty' and a free kick.

Originally Posted by Ginners

arsenal always have world class kids but never enough experiences players, and when the kids to get experienced they get sold. shit club imo

Typical north London club imo.

Originally Posted by dodger

Was that when you snatched a last minute equaliser or got dicked 4-0?

or when they lost 2-1 in a vital game maybe, after taking the lead only through their forward's hand.

It's the same every year. Morons get all aroused by the young lads slapping some shite div 2 team around and they go on to be knocked out later.

These kids never won anything. Their best teams had Henry, Vieira, Campbell, Cole, Pires, Lungburg. Hardly youth players.

A club of bottlers aswel. One defeat sets off a domino effect.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Don't you think it's all a bit obvious now?

Very, I'd just expect a bit more justification from him or why bother at all?

Originally Posted by sullers

but they've said this for 10+ years and don't have much to show for it. they keep peddling this when they beat Swindon 5-0 in the league cup.

They don't have a pot to piss in but Wenger craps on about his 'youth policy' bearing fruit to make it all look like part of the plan. It isn't, it's just the cost of a new ground absolutely £#%&!ed them....they all know this but prefer to put their trust in Arsene so to speak. Only now are the fans starting to lose faith because they can see these high class youngsters doing £#%&! all long-term.

If SAF had left United we might be seeing something similar developing at OT, but for now he keep being allocated funds....mainly due to the fact the Galzer's are terrified of upsetting him as far as I can tell.

Originally Posted by dodger

Arsène Wenger has the vision of a golden generation of young players at Arsenal to rival that which Manchester United developed in the 90s and he is convinced that they will form the backbone of the finest team in the country in three years' time.

The Frenchman railed, not for the first time, against what he perceives to be the vulgar spending of the other top clubs in England, as he made the boast that Arsenal were the only club among Europe's elite who "educate" their own players rather than sign them as fully fledged superstars for eye-watering fees.

He name-checked the five players that he feels represent Arsenal's future – the midfielders Cesc Fábregas, Abou Diaby and Denilson, as well as the wingers Theo Walcott and Samir Nasri. Diaby is 22 years old, Walcott 19 and the others 21.

Wenger overlooked the fact that all of them have been bought from other clubs at a combined cost of some £23m, whereas United's fabled youngsters of the previous decade were homegrown and, as such, cost nothing. David Beckham apart, they all hailed from the Greater Manchester area. However in Wenger's mind everything is relative, particularly the outlay of £23m in the excessive world of *21st‑century football, and he suggested that the biggest challenge he faces is to keep his squad together.

It was put to Wenger that United, for example, also had some promising young players. "Nani and Anderson?" he scoffed, of the midfielders who each cost around £18m. "The two young Brazilians [the Da Silva twins] do not play in the Champions League," he continued. "You look [at the Champions League last 16 line-ups] and see how many players [have been] *educated at our club and then take all the players from the other Champions League teams and tell me how many have been educated at those clubs.

"United do what they want and do it well and I do not criticise. But I just say that number-wise, we are the only club that has gone for a different policy because we wanted to build our stadium and get this team to maturity."

Wenger, whose argument is undermined slightly by his £15m capture of the Russia midfielder Andrei Arshavin, has completely overhauled his squad in recent years.

Shall we talk youngsters playing in the champions league then...

Neville X 2
Giggs
Butt
Scholes
Beckham
Fletcher
O'Shea
Brown
Evans

And they cost us not one penny between them.

I don't think Wenger even manages to convince himself half the time.

Originally Posted by marlo

nope it was win they outplayed us at ot last season and we won by a 'soft penalty' and a free kick.

great free kick that. arsenal are overhyped shite and wenger is coming out with these crazy utterings much more in the last few years to mask the fact that he is feeling the pressure.

Originally Posted by dodger

Very, I'd just expect a bit more justification from him or why bother at all?

They had no chance of a real challenge last season after all. Weak, both squad and players.

Originally Posted by marlo

nope it was win they outplayed us at ot last season and we won by a 'soft penalty' and a free kick.

Riiight. And where did Arsenal finish in the league? This side that handed us the title thought our luck and their misfortune? I assume they were runners up or were other teams lucky too?

Originally Posted by Fuzzy Dunlop

It's the same every year. Morons get all aroused by the young lads slapping some shite div 2 team around and they go on to be knocked out later.

These kids never won anything. Their best teams had Henry, Vieira, Campbell, Cole, Pires, Lungburg. Hardly youth players.

A club of bottlers aswel. One defeat sets off a domino effect.

totally agree.

'world class kids' - ok let's play a team of them against the best in the world. they'd get smashed.

Originally Posted by dodger

Arsène Wenger has the vision of a golden generation of young players at Arsenal to rival that which Manchester United developed in the 90s and he is convinced that they will form the backbone of the finest team in the country in three years' time.

The Frenchman railed, not for the first time, against what he perceives to be the vulgar spending of the other top clubs in England, as he made the boast that Arsenal were the only club among Europe's elite who "educate" their own players rather than sign them as fully fledged superstars for eye-watering fees.

He name-checked the five players that he feels represent Arsenal's future – the midfielders Cesc Fábregas, Abou Diaby and Denilson, as well as the wingers Theo Walcott and Samir Nasri. Diaby is 22 years old, Walcott 19 and the others 21.

Wenger overlooked the fact that all of them have been bought from other clubs at a combined cost of some £23m, whereas United's fabled youngsters of the previous decade were homegrown and, as such, cost nothing. David Beckham apart, they all hailed from the Greater Manchester area. However in Wenger's mind everything is relative, particularly the outlay of £23m in the excessive world of *21st‑century football, and he suggested that the biggest challenge he faces is to keep his squad together.

It was put to Wenger that United, for example, also had some promising young players. "Nani and Anderson?" he scoffed, of the midfielders who each cost around £18m. "The two young Brazilians [the Da Silva twins] do not play in the Champions League," he continued. "You look [at the Champions League last 16 line-ups] and see how many players [have been] *educated at our club and then take all the players from the other Champions League teams and tell me how many have been educated at those clubs.

"United do what they want and do it well and I do not criticise. But I just say that number-wise, we are the only club that has gone for a different policy because we wanted to build our stadium and get this team to maturity."

Wenger, whose argument is undermined slightly by his £15m capture of the Russia midfielder Andrei Arshavin, has completely overhauled his squad in recent years.

Right, im confused as he seems to be saying our youngsters are not quite the same thing as his cos we bought the da Silvas and Nani n Anderson, but all those players listed above were also bought for varying amounts of money, very few started as school boys at arsenal like Evans (n Giggs n Scholes n Neville etc).

Originally Posted by sullers

totally agree.

'world class kids' - ok let's play a team of them against the best in the world. they'd get smashed.

They have one world class kid and he is 22. The rest of them are mainly mediocre, a couple promising and a lot pretty shite.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

They had no chance of a real challenge last season after all. Weak, both squad and players.

and manager

Originally Posted by Gizza

Right, im confused as he seems to be saying our youngsters are not quite the same thing as his cos we bought the da Silvas and Nani n Anderson, but all those players listed above were also bought for varying amounts of money, very few started as school boys at arsenal like Evans (n Giggs n Scholes n Neville).

we bought all our young players tbf.

ronaldo 12m
rooney 30m
nani 18m
anderson 18m
tosic 15m
evans 8m

Originally Posted by carlosartorial

mainly due to the fact the Glazer's are terrified of upsetting him as far as I can tell.

I heard exactly the same about the relationship.

Originally Posted by marlo

we bought all our young players tbf.

ronaldo 12m
rooney 30m
nani 18m
anderson 18m
tosic 15m
evans 8m

Who did we buy Evans off?

Originally Posted by Gizza

Right, im confused as he seems to be saying our youngsters are not quite the same thing as his cos we bought the da Silvas and Nani n Anderson, but all those players listed above were also bought for varying amounts of money, very few started as school boys at arsenal like Evans (n Giggs n Scholes n Neville).

None in fact. None that were mentioned anyway. There's one or two that might make it but that's it. Sounds like a desperate man to me.

Originally Posted by Gizza

Who did we buy Evans off?

cant remember now tbh.

some northen team though.

Originally Posted by Gizza

Who did we buy Evans off?

Just making shit up now, rather sad, look at the silly fees.