WTF is this about???

Originally Posted by DakotaFredsBigShoe

Whilst I can totally understand rvp point if view, where are these rumours coming from?

Why can you understand his point of view? Do you think RvP is that ignorant to the fact things can change in Football overnight?

The rumours have stemmed from this guy

Originally Posted by eff KFC

nice user name....

again... welcome to last week

Originally Posted by shenwen

Probably not do much the inevitability if Fergs leaving as the sight of David Moyes and his PT crew rolling into Carrington.

"yes, very funny. Now where is the real manager?"

Also doesn't help when one of his international team mates is happy with the news Moyes has £#%&!ed off so they can start training with a ball again.

Originally Posted by Jethro

Why can you understand his point of view? Do you think RvP is that ignorant to the fact things can change in Football overnight?

The rumours have stemmed from this guy

The pov of the training changing and new manager being not considered a top manager.

Of course things change as Fergie was 70. I think that it is understandable that rvp dislikes the training and doesn't consider it fair to have an inexperienced coach and manager .

Seemed to have finally sorted out his injury problems last couple of years and in wades Dave with his £#%&!ing medicine ball.

So rvp loved the intricate skills based training of Micky P...
Who'd thunk?
Ahh well, I'm not going to get all worked up over something that scouse thatchheaded, camp sidekick pundit says. Pretty sure if Robbo had any concerns regarding training he'd have voiced them. I'm even more confident that moyes wouldn't want him injured, whether he's leaving or not so you'd be daft to think its a training issue.... Surely?

Plus why would he want away now when he's cup tied?

Shum mishtake ya?

Originally Posted by Crumps

Seemed to have finally sorted out his injury problems last couple of years and in wades Dave with his £#%&!ing medicine ball.

tbh its bullshit, fergie's training methods ( or phelans) still caused injuries. The back four were out for weeks at a time last season.

Rooney has improved this year with moyes so I don't see it being all down to moyes. RVP needs to get his head right or £#%&! off, like I said we need our best players 100% behind this or we will be £#%&!ed.

Originally Posted by plopborsky

tbh its bullshit, fergie's training methods ( or phelans) still caused injuries. The back four were out for weeks at a time last season.

Rooney has improved this year with moyes so I don't see it being all down to moyes. RVP needs to get his head right or £#%&! off, like I said we need our best players 100% behind this or we will be £#%&!ed.

Horse for courses innit. If RVP reacted badly to the pre season training it will suffer all season with it unless he has a complete break. It's all %@#$&!s and hearsay though. Make them train at the Cliff so I can go an have a look.

Originally Posted by plopborsky

tbh its bullshit, fergie's training methods ( or phelans) still caused injuries. The back four were out for weeks at a time last season.

Rooney has improved this year with moyes so I don't see it being all down to moyes. RVP needs to get his head right or £#%&! off, like I said we need our best players 100% behind this or we will be £#%&!ed.

State of modern footballers! 100,000 + a week in wages, alone, and they moan about to have a run a bit harder? Doesn't make sense.

Originally Posted by Larssonisghod7

again... welcome to last week

Glasgow 2 Auchtermuchty 0

Originally Posted by BarryX

State of modern footballers! 100,000 + a week in wages, alone, and they moan about to have a run a bit harder? Doesn't make sense.

More likely to moan at something that could be detrimental to their ability to perform in a match situation.

We would be up in arms or wanting rid of a player if they were looking shot after 70 minutes or limping off every other game.

Not like Kes nowadays, Bazza.

Don't deny it because Anderson.

Originally Posted by Crumps

Horse for courses innit. If RVP reacted badly to the pre season training it will suffer all season with it unless he has a complete break. It's all %@#$&!s and hearsay though. Make them train at the Cliff so I can go an have a look.

A lot of it is that Moyes is questioning the players that have a high standing in the club, rio the other week came out and had a few things to say about being told if they will start or not on game day.

Its all about change if you have been in any job and a new boss comes in everyone is on edge, things that were acceptable are no longer acceptable. I think RVP has seen his arse because shitty old moyes has £#%&!ed him off about something and he does not respect him. Bottom line is its his boss and that's that.

I was more than happy to see he told wellbeck to stay later and practice his finishing. No one wants to mention that about his training methods.

Still mad RVP missed that chance away to Madrid

Originally Posted by plopborsky

A lot of it is that Moyes is questioning the players that have a high standing in the club, rio the other week came out and had a few things to say about being told if they will start or not on game day.

Its all about change if you have been in any job and a new boss comes in everyone is on edge, things that were acceptable are no longer acceptable. I think RVP has seen his arse because shitty old moyes has £#%&!ed him off about something and he does not respect him. Bottom line is its his boss and that's that.

I was more than happy to see he told wellbeck to stay later and practice his finishing. No one wants to mention that about his training methods.

Still mad RVP missed that chance away to Madrid

Think Moyes was being lenient with Welbeck telling him to stay behind 15 minutes. Could do with treble that at least.

Originally Posted by Coracao

Think Moyes was being lenient with Welbeck telling him to stay behind 15 minutes. Could do with treble that at least.

I like that he challenged him to improve. We have all seen danny get in great positions and £#%&! it up too many times.

Originally Posted by Crumps

More likely to moan at something that could be detrimental to their ability to perform in a match situation.

We would be up in arms or wanting rid of a player if they were looking shot after 70 minutes or limping off every other game.

Not like Kes nowadays, Bazza.

Don't deny it because Anderson.

I hear what you're saying, but I am quite certain that Moyes and his team know what is and isn't beneficial in terms of their fitness regime (he is, afterall, well into his sport's science). Whether it's right, or wrong, or just plain different to what went on before is irrelevant IMHO. As Plops said, knuckle down and man the £#%&! up!

if there's one thing the last 6 seasons of constant injury after injury after injury has told us it's that the united squad hasn't been fit enough

and it's been mentioned on here many times that another thing must surely be the actual training methods and medical analysis themselves


in comes moyes and apparently makes that a key area that needs addressing urgently and suddenly his critics are going mental, calling him a dinosaur and saying that the coaching staff haven't got a clue.

get real ffs. as wonky said, moyes is not going to be forcing anybody to do anything that they shouldn't be capable of. and off the back of that he is then going to adjust for individuals in order to keep the squad happy and ready to play for the team.

just let him get on with it and stop £#%&!ing whining. if RvP leaves and starts whining about being worked too hard then i'll listen to him. but if it turns out he just wasn't up to it in the first place and then couldn't settle even after he was given his own personally designed regime then good riddance.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

if there's one thing the last 6 seasons of constant injury after injury after injury has told us it's that the united squad hasn't been fit enough

and it's been mentioned on here many times that another thing must surely be the actual training methods and medical analysis themselves


in comes moyes and apparently makes that a key area that needs addressing urgently and suddenly his critics are going mental, calling him a dinosaur and saying that the coaching staff haven't got a clue.

get real ffs. as wonky said, moyes is not going to be forcing anybody to do anything that they shouldn't be capable of. and off the back of that he is then going to adjust for individuals in order to keep the squad happy and ready to play for the team.

just let him get on with it and stop £#%&!ing whining. if RvP leaves and starts whining about being worked too hard then i'll listen to him. but if it turns out he just wasn't up to it in the first place and then couldn't settle even after he was given his own personally designed regime then good riddance.

I find it highly unlikely that a moyes apologist like you would listen to and agree with rvp if he left and said he couldn't stand the training, it was archaic so he left.

dutchman in being stroppy shock.

Originally Posted by DakotaFredsBigShoe

I find it highly unlikely that a moyes apologist like you would listen to and agree with rvp if he left and said he couldn't stand the training, it was archaic so he left.

you're so clumsy i feel a bit guilty asking you to go and practice on someone else, but i'm really not interested...