Alonso for Vidic - Tin hat on.

More chance of us re-signing Ronaldo than Ferguson bringing Alonso to OT.

Cleverley is the future.

Originally Posted by Baron_van_Marlon

I'd have to respectfully disagree... in the modern game where statistics, specifically tangible ones such as goals & assists, are used as reference points to determine how good a player is a huge amount of the game is marginalised. Kaka is one of the players - ironically along with Alonso (he only had 5 direct assists in his career at Liverpool) - where those statistics tell only a tiny fraction of the story. Kaka, playing in a role at Milan that dictated the tempo, the gaps he made from his running with the ball, the focus he demands from the opposition who would be set-up to stop him carrying the ball through the middle of the pitch etc... it allows a good team to exploit the expectation they have of his impact. You almost use him as a sacraficial pawn... & if the oppo fall for it & give him too much attention, you blindside them with the other multitude of great players these sides have. Or, they don't fall for, it try to take them on, and get £#%&!ed by him. Like we did when he ran straight through us & his superbly economical & direct use of the ball meant we got nowhere near him over 180mins.

The Pro Evo generation are incapable of seeing past statistics imo, Kaka, along with Zidane for example who never had a great scoring record nor huge pile of assists to his name, are & were more than those stats & are revered as such. A small proportion also infiltrates opinions because they were such elegant players... different discussion though.

Right on the money there Bazza, its the same problem with the Sky crowd who only ever watch football on tv, they only see the ball and tend to have little to zero understanding of the game and as result talk mostly shite about it.

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

More chance of us re-signing Ronaldo than Ferguson bringing Alonso to OT.

Cleverley is the future.

Attacking, goalscoring Midfielder.

He'll do until Petrucci and Morrison mature

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Right on the money there Bazza, its the same problem with the Sky crowd who only ever watch football on tv, they only see the ball and tend to have little to zero understanding of the game and as result talk mostly shite about it.

We all mostly talk shite about it if we're honest

Just some talk more shite than others, and if I hear a single peep out of someone about Football Manager stats, or how good a certain player is in FIFA / PES it's good night Vienna & a roundhouse to the %@#$&!s swiftly follows. Not to be confused with talking about how good the game itself is of course, it's the cross contamination that results in violence.

Originally Posted by TripDownMiseryLane

Right on the money there Bazza, its the same problem with the Sky crowd who only ever watch football on tv, they only see the ball and tend to have little to zero understanding of the game and as result talk mostly shite about it.

spot on

although a pair of 3D goggles will allow them to fit the entire pitch into the camera shot at all times apparently, thus making their views on the game valid

a whole new ball game

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Well i'd hope he wouldn't now.

turned out for the best

Originally Posted by Erics Collar

turned out for the best

He's much better centrally than playing "out to in", whatever the £#%&! that means.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

He's much better centrally than playing "out to in", whatever the £#%&! that means.

the manager can keep playing him centrally if he keeps scoring goals

the manager will also be given credit for giving him Michael Owen to train with

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

the manager can keep playing him centrally if he keeps scoring goals

the manager will also be given credit for giving him Michael Owen to train with

The manager can do whatever the £#%&! he likes to be honest, possibly short of buying [players.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

He's much better centrally than playing "out to in", whatever the £#%&! that means.

i agree,worked with ronnie at times but overall he is a centre forward

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

the manager can keep playing him centrally if he keeps scoring goals

the manager will also be given credit for giving him Michael Owen to train with

so you are saying seeing how crap owen is close up has given him more confidence

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

The manager can do whatever the £#%&! he likes to be honest, possibly short of buying [players.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

The manager can do whatever the £#%&! he likes to be honest, possibly short of buying players.

He could probably afford to buy a few out of his own pocket, if he wanted.

let madrid keep and ruin every player they like.

I'd rather have essien and diaby.

actually, i'd rather we'd taken robbie keane than got benzema. but we should get a cheap scandinavian forward. one of the taller ones.

Originally Posted by dunk

He could probably afford to buy a few out of his own pocket, if he wanted.

Interesting point, are you suggesting maybe Fergie and some of the highly paid players club together and form a transfer fund. Not heard this before as a suggestion.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Interesting point, are you suggesting maybe Fergie and some of the highly paid players club together and form a transfer fund. Not heard this before as a suggestion.

Not saying they should, but I imagine the could, if they wanted to.

They probably could've clubbed together and bought Tevez

Originally Posted by dunk

Not saying they should, but I imagine the could, if they wanted to.

They probably could've clubbed together and bought Tevez

Hmmmm, then he could've turned down the players individually instead of just "the club" eh.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

Hmmmm, then he could've turned down the players individually instead of just "the club" eh.

Or, his precious team mates that loved him so much decided he wasn't worth the money.

Puts a new complexion on the G. Neville row Perhaps he was required to stump the last couple of mil, but £#%&!ed him off

Originally Posted by dunk

Or, his precious team mates that loved him so much decided he wasn't worth the money.

Puts a new complexion on the G. Neville row Perhaps he was required to stump the last couple of mil, but £#%&!ed him off

£45 million is a lot.

Originally Posted by antonin jablonsky

£45 million is a lot.

Fair point.