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Originally Posted by S/Side.Red
You can't seperate the two. Ten years ago I expect every neutral in France was anyone but Lyon. Now it's PSG. In football winners rub people up the wrong way. The check list of them being arrogant, favoured by officials and unfairly powerful can be counted on.
If United pull a Liverpool and go a quarter of a century without winning the title while City clean up like us under Fergie, you can bet they will be despised just as much as we were. Maybe more given the plastic element.
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city are already despised purely based on money. it's a completely different situation, probably based on social values - hard work versus winning the lottery.
united have always been hated, sneered at, mocked, derided even though we never even came close to dominating for my first nearly 20yrs of being a red.
i know you have a point though, because it's quite an eye opener talking to younger football fans about stuff an old bastard like me grew up knowing. i've mentioned on here before that a villa fan (aged late 20s) i worked with a few years back didn't even know about heysel. he knew that he hated 80s united though.
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Originally Posted by Buck
what has "messi's 00s" team got to do with the "current version of barcelona"?
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firstly it was a btw
although secondly he still plays for them, so there's maybe a connection there that goes directly to your (very odd) question.