Fergie

I thought it was time late 2005.

Will never think it again.

Originally Posted by Aman27deep

So, once every 4 and a half years. Top red.

do you have good and bad English days, irl?

In answer to Ericca, no - Didn't want him out, could see that he was at an important part of the project

Mid- naughties I thought his time was up but he won me over again.

Wanted to tear his throat out when he left Scholes out of the team against Wigan away last season my therapist says i'm making excellent progress

My faith has never wavered.


Freggyle IN!

never wanted him out till this season.

Wanted him out vigorously in October 2005. Think there are signs the last couple of years of major frailties but at the same time, it's more a lack of faith in the coaching set-up I think everyone has.

He has recently shown some signs of picking a settled team finally though.

Originally Posted by rafabio

never wanted him out till this season.

100% record then.

Also, for what it's worth - i hope fergie calls it a day at the end of this season.

Get someone new in with fresh ideas, a decent backroom staff with new ideas.

We are a Robin Van Persie injury away from being a pretty average team tbh.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Also, for what it's worth - i hope fergie calls it a day at the end of this season.

Get someone new in with fresh ideas, a decent backroom staff with new ideas.

We are a Robin Van Persie injury away from being a pretty average team tbh.

You're on drugs.

I don't know what we'll end up winning this season, but we are where we are for two reasons, Van Persie and Fergie, and you want one of them to leave.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Also, for what it's worth - i hope fergie calls it a day at the end of this season.

Get someone new in with fresh ideas, a decent backroom staff with new ideas.

We are a Robin Van Persie injury away from being a pretty average team tbh.

The saying be careful what you wish for springs to mind. But then again, I don't believe that anyone should be untouchable and if this season ends as badly as the last one serious questions have to be asked about Fergie. If the teams not up to par, that's Fergies fault for picking the team, no excuses etc.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Also, for what it's worth - i hope fergie calls it a day at the end of this season.

Get someone new in with fresh ideas, a decent backroom staff with new ideas.

We are a Robin Van Persie injury away from being a pretty average team tbh.

Are we £#%&!. Last season Rooney scored 30 odd goals. This season it's RvP. Yes he's better than Rooney, but if he's out injured Rooney goes back up front, the style reverts back to a less sophisticated approach and the squad just gets the £#%&! on with it. If they were both out then there'd be a big headache, but that would be true in any season anyway...

Originally Posted by Tumescent Throb

Are we £#%&!. Last season Rooney scored 30 odd goals. This season it's RvP. Yes he's better than Rooney, but if he's out injured Rooney goes back up front, the style reverts back to a less sophisticated approach and the squad just gets the £#%&! on with it. If they were both out then there'd be a big headache, but that would be true in any season anyway...

Rooney's been shit this season. where is he now?

oh injured again. what a shock. that'll be another 4 weeks before he learns how to trap a football once he gets back as well.

Originally Posted by Sparky***

Also, for what it's worth - i hope fergie calls it a day at the end of this season.

Get someone new in with fresh ideas, a decent backroom staff with new ideas.

We are a Robin Van Persie injury away from being a pretty average team tbh.

We're average even with him.

Legendary managers are not ten-a-penny, they come along once or twice in a club's history. When you have one you milk it for as long as you can, period.

Graeme Souness had fresh ideas and a shiny new backroom staff too, look what happened. How do you think Arsenal fans feel at being potless for 7 years, or Chelsea supporters, who for large tracts of every season it seems, are in crisis ?You should never trade in the success you have for the success you might have, just because you are bored with the status quo or it's not going perfectly at the moment.

A simple look at the history of Europe's elite clubs over the past 20 years shows just how impressive a feat it is to have put United on top and keep us there for as long as he has. Yes there have been moments where we weren't the best, and yes there have also been moments when the football wasn't as breathtaking or the personnel quite as accomplished, but that was, and is, inevitable. In the constant evolution of a team, mistakes will be made as well as outstanding decisions, there is just no other way. The key is competing. We have no divine right to win every season, but you know your manager is the right man when you you are in the thick of things competing every year, and barring very short periods over the last two decades, we have. Every year.

You only have to look at the list of names that have tried, and failed, in this country to emulate what Ferguson has done. Scolari, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancellotti, Benitez, Villas Boas, Houllier, Ranieri, Dalglish, among others, all managers that at one time or another were considered to be at the very top level of their trade, to appreciate just what Fergie has accomplished in keeping us at or around the top for twenty-odd years.

There is a reason the other managers speak of him in reverent terms. They know just how £#%&!ing hard it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done it. They know.

Wish that away at your peril.

Originally Posted by utd99

Legendary managers are not ten-a-penny, they come along once or twice in a club's history. When you have one you milk it for as long as you can, period.

Graeme Souness had fresh ideas and a shiny new backroom staff too, look what happened. How do you think Arsenal fans feel at being potless for 7 years, or Chelsea supporters, who for large tracts of every season it seems, are in crisis ?You should never trade in the success you have for the success you might have, just because you are bored with the status quo or it's not going perfectly at the moment.

A simple look at the history of Europe's elite clubs over the past 20 years shows just how impressive a feat it is to have put United on top and keep us there for as long as he has. Yes there have been moments where we weren't the best, and yes there have also been moments when the football wasn't as breathtaking or the personnel quite as accomplished, but that was, and is, inevitable. In the constant evolution of a team, mistakes will be made as well as outstanding decisions, there is just no other way. The key is competing. We have no divine right to win every season, but you know your manager is the right man when you you are in the thick of things competing every year, and barring very short periods over the last two decades, we have. Every year.

You only have to look at the list of names that have tried, and failed, in this country to emulate what Ferguson has done. Scolari, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancellotti, Benitez, Villas Boas, Houllier, Ranieri, Dalglish, among others, all managers that at one time or another were considered to be at the very top level of their trade, to appreciate just what Fergie has accomplished in keeping us at or around the top for twenty-odd years.

There is a reason the other managers speak of him in reverent terms. They know just how £#%&!ing hard it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done it. They know.

Wish that away at your peril.

This x 1000.

Originally Posted by saffers

We're average even with him.

As the league table proves........ah.

In the last 5 years we've won the League 3 times & been runner up twice - both on the last day, once by a single point & once on GD () ...that is astonishing consistency. Especially when you consider we have got to the latter stages of the European Cup in the majority of those seasons too.

We get next to no credit for this.
Even now with a 7pt lead the Press are implying we're there by default.

Van Persie has been a wonderful signing, but he has nothing to do with the consistency that was already here before he arrived. It's all down to one man.

Fergie's blind spot for central midfield leaves you pulling your hair out at times but the thought of somebody else being in charge is terrifying.

Mourinho would still be my first choice when he finally does step down..but £#%&! knows when that will be.
At times this season I've thought he might be close to calling it a day, but the way he's been celebrating goals & giving the Press both barrels makes me think there's at least another year or 2 in him.

Originally Posted by utd99

Legendary managers are not ten-a-penny, they come along once or twice in a club's history. When you have one you milk it for as long as you can, period.

Graeme Souness had fresh ideas and a shiny new backroom staff too, look what happened. How do you think Arsenal fans feel at being potless for 7 years, or Chelsea supporters, who for large tracts of every season it seems, are in crisis ?You should never trade in the success you have for the success you might have, just because you are bored with the status quo or it's not going perfectly at the moment.

A simple look at the history of Europe's elite clubs over the past 20 years shows just how impressive a feat it is to have put United on top and keep us there for as long as he has. Yes there have been moments where we weren't the best, and yes there have also been moments when the football wasn't as breathtaking or the personnel quite as accomplished, but that was, and is, inevitable. In the constant evolution of a team, mistakes will be made as well as outstanding decisions, there is just no other way. The key is competing. We have no divine right to win every season, but you know your manager is the right man when you you are in the thick of things competing every year, and barring very short periods over the last two decades, we have. Every year.

You only have to look at the list of names that have tried, and failed, in this country to emulate what Ferguson has done. Scolari, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancellotti, Benitez, Villas Boas, Houllier, Ranieri, Dalglish, among others, all managers that at one time or another were considered to be at the very top level of their trade, to appreciate just what Fergie has accomplished in keeping us at or around the top for twenty-odd years.

There is a reason the other managers speak of him in reverent terms. They know just how £#%&!ing hard it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done it. They know.

Wish that away at your peril.

tldr...

kidding, that's a fantastic post

Originally Posted by utd99

Legendary managers are not ten-a-penny, they come along once or twice in a club's history. When you have one you milk it for as long as you can, period.

Graeme Souness had fresh ideas and a shiny new backroom staff too, look what happened. How do you think Arsenal fans feel at being potless for 7 years, or Chelsea supporters, who for large tracts of every season it seems, are in crisis ?You should never trade in the success you have for the success you might have, just because you are bored with the status quo or it's not going perfectly at the moment.

A simple look at the history of Europe's elite clubs over the past 20 years shows just how impressive a feat it is to have put United on top and keep us there for as long as he has. Yes there have been moments where we weren't the best, and yes there have also been moments when the football wasn't as breathtaking or the personnel quite as accomplished, but that was, and is, inevitable. In the constant evolution of a team, mistakes will be made as well as outstanding decisions, there is just no other way. The key is competing. We have no divine right to win every season, but you know your manager is the right man when you you are in the thick of things competing every year, and barring very short periods over the last two decades, we have. Every year.

You only have to look at the list of names that have tried, and failed, in this country to emulate what Ferguson has done. Scolari, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancellotti, Benitez, Villas Boas, Houllier, Ranieri, Dalglish, among others, all managers that at one time or another were considered to be at the very top level of their trade, to appreciate just what Fergie has accomplished in keeping us at or around the top for twenty-odd years.

There is a reason the other managers speak of him in reverent terms. They know just how £#%&!ing hard it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done it. They know.

Wish that away at your peril.

He's got to retire sometime. May as well do it now while we're in a relatively good state with good players for someone to take over.

either that or...

Originally Posted by utd99

Legendary managers are not ten-a-penny, they come along once or twice in a club's history. When you have one you milk it for as long as you can, period.

Graeme Souness had fresh ideas and a shiny new backroom staff too, look what happened. How do you think Arsenal fans feel at being potless for 7 years, or Chelsea supporters, who for large tracts of every season it seems, are in crisis ?You should never trade in the success you have for the success you might have, just because you are bored with the status quo or it's not going perfectly at the moment.

A simple look at the history of Europe's elite clubs over the past 20 years shows just how impressive a feat it is to have put United on top and keep us there for as long as he has. Yes there have been moments where we weren't the best, and yes there have also been moments when the football wasn't as breathtaking or the personnel quite as accomplished, but that was, and is, inevitable. In the constant evolution of a team, mistakes will be made as well as outstanding decisions, there is just no other way. The key is competing. We have no divine right to win every season, but you know your manager is the right man when you you are in the thick of things competing every year, and barring very short periods over the last two decades, we have. Every year.

You only have to look at the list of names that have tried, and failed, in this country to emulate what Ferguson has done. Scolari, Wenger, Mourinho, Ancellotti, Benitez, Villas Boas, Houllier, Ranieri, Dalglish, among others, all managers that at one time or another were considered to be at the very top level of their trade, to appreciate just what Fergie has accomplished in keeping us at or around the top for twenty-odd years.

There is a reason the other managers speak of him in reverent terms. They know just how £#%&!ing hard it is to do what he's done for as long as he's done it. They know.

Wish that away at your peril.

You want him to die on the touchline pal? Is that it?